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   From: robert@no.way   
      
   On Nov 11, 2024, Andrew wrote   
   (Message-ID: ):   
      
   > "Robert" wrote in message news:vgs3ft$r8o6$1@dont-email.me...   
   > > Andrew wrote:   
   > > > "Robert" wrote:   
   > > > >   
   > > > > “And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night, and   
   > > > > there   
   > > > > was evening and there was morning, the first day.” (Gen 1:5, Brenton)   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Yupper’s! A Full Day starts at evening time and ends at evening   
   time, as   
   > > > > is understood by the Middle East. Night is still Night, and Day, Day.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Why is this important? Prophetic times in Scripture are based on the   
   > > > > Calendar   
   > > > > timing as created by the Creator. Every year starts on the 1st day of   
   the   
   > > > > Month in which Passover is celebrated, which is based on the Lunar   
   > > > > Calendar.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Every Day starts in the Evening.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > This Timing is also the correct time to utilize and understand for the   
   > > > > time   
   > > > > of the Crucifixion, and the timing of the 3 days and nights that Jesus   
   > > > > spent   
   > > > > in the belly of this earth. Which has nothing to due with “Good   
   > > > > Friday”   
   > > > > nor the religious days celebrated by many churches who just   
   traditionally   
   > > > > follow the ways of the RCC of old. For instance, “Easter” is not   
   found   
   > > > > in   
   > > > > the NT in the original Greek NT, is is only found in the Vulgate,   
   Latin a   
   > > > > later translated to English versions.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > The importance of the above info needs to be understood in order to   
   > > > > properly   
   > > > > project prophecy fulfillment as given by God to man.   
   > > >   
   > > > According to the Bible, Jesus was crucified on what we call Friday. He   
   was   
   > > > resurrected on Sunday, which was three days after He permitted Himself to   
   > > > be in physical control of the dark forces of this World [Thursday night]   
   > > > which is when he said to those who arrested Him, "but this is your hour,   
   > > > and the power of darkness." ~ Luke 22:53   
   > >   
   > > Then according to you, he was killed Friday afternoon, and laid in the   
   > > ground   
   > > before evening, since upon Friday evening, our time, their Sabbath began.   
   > > That was night 1. Then the next evening was Sunday, their time Meaning   
   night   
   > > 2, and Sunday morning He arose Day 2. Which is two nights and two days, not   
   > > three as the Lord Jesus prophesied.   
   > >   
   > > “When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands   
   > > against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.” (Luk   
   22:53,   
   > > KJV)   
   >   
   > You are trying to establish a doctrine based upon a narrow and   
   > false understanding of Matthew 12:40.   
   >   
   > "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly;   
   > so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart   
   > of the earth." ~ Matthew 12:40.   
   >   
   > The term, "heart of the earth" as used here is a, "figure of speech"   
   > which is a non-literal literary device. But you are trying to force   
   > a literal interpretation out of it, which is out of harmony with the   
   > rest of the Bible, and the words of Jesus.   
      
   John 2   
   19 esus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I   
   will raise it up.   
      
   20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and   
   wilt thou rear it up in three days?   
      
   21But he spake of the temple of his body.   
      
   Ephesians 4:9(KJV)   
      
   9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the   
   lower parts of the earth?   
      
   There is much scripture like those above which supports what Jesus Spoke.   
   Both in the old as well as the new testaments.   
      
   This is not from the doctrine of men, but of God. So before you start   
   throwing out accusation after accusations, you would do well to study the   
   full word of God.   
      
   >   
   > > So how does that verse support what you are trying to say.?   
   >   
   > Jesus did not descend down to the center of the planet. But   
   > He was in the control of the dark forces of this realm from   
   > that time [Thursday night] until He was resurrected on   
   > Sunday morning.   
      
   You are changing goal posts here, why? As you stated, our current Thursday   
   night was their beginning of Friday. And if you were to read scripture,   
   similar tp that which I showed you from above, you would see that he   
   descended into the belly of the earth, as Jonah. The heart == is understood   
   as “the Center” even today.   
   >   
   >   
   > > > These are events of the highest significance that have rich spiritual   
   > > > meaning to those whose hearts are surrendered to Jesus.   
   > >   
   > > That event has everything to do with Life Eternal, yet what you claim   
   > > appears to deny the prophecy that Jesus spoke.   
   >   
   > What Jesus said was true, but your narrow interpretation of what He said   
   > was false. You falsely interpret what He said, and ignore the context that   
   > He gave to it in the rest of the Gospels.   
   >   
   > Here is some biblical context on the issue. The following texts are   
   > all the words of Jesus, and they all say that He was to be raised on,   
   > "THE THIRD DAY"...which was Sunday morning. (Luke 24:21)   
   >   
   > " From that time forth began Jesus to show unto his disciples,   
   > how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things   
   > of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and   
   > be raised again the third day." Matthew 16:21   
   >   
   > "Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be   
   > betrayed unto the chief priests and unto the scribes, and they   
   > shall condemn him to death, And shall deliver him to the   
   > Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify him: and   
   > the third day he shall rise again." Matthew 20:18.19   
   >   
   > "For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of   
   > man is delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him;   
   > and after that he is killed, he shall rise the third day." Mark 9:31   
   >   
   > "He took again the twelve, and began to tell them what things   
   > should happen unto him, Saying, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem;   
   > and the Son of man shall be delivered unto the chief priests, and   
   > unto the scribes; and they shall condemn him to death, and shall   
   > deliver him to the Gentiles:And they shall mock him, and shall   
   > scourge him, and shall spit upon him, and shall kill him: and the   
   > third day he shall rise again."   
   > Mark 10:32-34   
   >   
   > "The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the   
   > elders and chief priests and scribes, and be slain, and be raised   
   > the third day." Luke 9:22 .   
   >   
   > "For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked,   
   > and spitefully entreated, and spitted on:And they shall scourge   
   > him and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again."   
      
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