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   From: andrew.321.remov@usa.net   
      
   "Robert" wrote in message news:vgteel$13dvn$1@dont-email.me...   
   > Andrew wrote:   
   >> "Robert" wrote:   
   >> > Andrew wrote:   
   >> > > "Robert" wrote:   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > “And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night, and   
   >> > > > there was evening and there was morning, the first day.” (Gen 1:5,   
   Brenton)   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > Yupper’s! A Full Day starts at evening time and ends at evening   
   time, as   
   >> > > > is understood by the Middle East. Night is still Night, and Day, Day.   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > Why is this important? Prophetic times in Scripture are based on the   
   Calendar   
   >> > > > timing as created by the Creator. Every year starts on the 1st day of   
   the   
   >> > > > Month in which Passover is celebrated, which is based on the Lunar   
   Calendar.   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > Every Day starts in the Evening.   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > This Timing is also the correct time to utilize and understand for the   
   >> > > > time   
   >> > > > of the Crucifixion, and the timing of the 3 days and nights that Jesus   
   >> > > > spent   
   >> > > > in the belly of this earth. Which has nothing to due with “Good   
   >> > > > Friday”   
   >> > > > nor the religious days celebrated by many churches who just   
   traditionally   
   >> > > > follow the ways of the RCC of old. For instance, “Easter” is not   
   found   
   >> > > > in   
   >> > > > the NT in the original Greek NT, is is only found in the Vulgate,   
   Latin a   
   >> > > > later translated to English versions.   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > The importance of the above info needs to be understood in order to   
   >> > > > properly project prophecy fulfillment as given by God to man.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > According to the Bible, Jesus was crucified on what we call Friday. He   
   was   
   >> > > resurrected on Sunday, which was three days after He permitted Himself   
   to   
   >> > > be in physical control of the dark forces of this World [Thursday night]   
   >> > > which is when he said to those who arrested Him, "but this is your hour,   
   >> > > and the power of darkness." ~ Luke 22:53   
   >> >   
   >> > Then according to you, he was killed Friday afternoon, and laid in the   
   >> > ground before evening,   
      
   According to the Bible, Jesus was crucified on what we call Friday and He was   
   resurrected on Sunday,  That is easy for anyone to see who carefully reads the   
   gospels.   
      
   >>>  since upon Friday evening, our time, their Sabbath began.   
   >> > That was night 1. Then the next evening was Sunday, their time Meaning   
   night   
   >> > 2, and Sunday morning He arose Day 2. Which is two nights and two days,   
   not   
   >> > three as the Lord Jesus prophesied.   
      
   You are trying to fit everything into your false interpretation of Matthew   
   12:40.   
   All the while ignoring what Jesus repeatedly told His disciples on this very   
   topic.   
   You have made this false teaching of yours an *idol* in willful violation of   
   the   
   commandments of the Most High God. And in willful rejection of the words of   
   Jesus.   
      
   When you willfully reject the words of Jesus, you are in effect rejecting Him.   
   You are free to descend down this path that you have chosen. Even as Lucifer   
   was free to rebel against God when he was in heaven. But you are also free to   
   reject Satan and choose life in the awesome power of the name of Jesus.   
      
   >> You are trying to establish a doctrine based upon a narrow and   
   >> false understanding of Matthew 12:40.   
   >>   
   >> "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly;   
   >> so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart   
   >> of the earth." ~ Matthew 12:40.   
   >>   
   >> The term, "heart of the earth" as used here is a, "figure of speech"   
   >> which is a non-literal literary device. But you are trying to force   
   >> a literal interpretation out of it, which is out of harmony with the   
   >> rest of the Bible, and the words of Jesus.   
   >   
   > John 2   
   > 19 esus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in   
   > three days I will raise it up.   
      
   Which is exactly what happened. On the third day He was raised up.   
      
   > 20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and   
   > wilt thou rear it up in three days?   
   >   
   > 21But he spake of the temple of his body.   
   >   
   > Ephesians 4:9(KJV)   
   >   
   > 9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the   
   > lower parts of the earth?   
   >   
   > There is much scripture like those above which supports what Jesus Spoke.   
   > Both in the old as well as the new testaments.   
      
   Yes, but they don't support your out of context interpretation.   
      
   > This is not from the doctrine of men, but of God.   
      
   Your out of context interpretation is_ not_from God.   
      
   > So before you start throwing out accusation after accusations,   
   > you would do well to study the full word of God.   
      
   If you actually did that, you would see where your   
   interpretation was contrary to the words of Jesus.   
      
   >> > So how does that verse support what you are trying to say.?   
   >>   
   >> Jesus did not descend down to the center of the planet. But   
   >> He was in the control of the dark forces of this realm from   
   >> that time [Thursday night] until He was resurrected on   
   >> Sunday morning.   
   >   
   > You are changing goal posts here, why? As you stated, our current Thursday   
   > night was their beginning of Friday. And if you were to read scripture,   
   > similar tp that which I showed you from above, you would see that he   
   > descended into the belly of the earth, as Jonah. The heart == is understood   
   > as “the Center” even today.   
   >>   
   >> > > These are events of the highest significance that have rich spiritual   
   >> > > meaning to those whose hearts are surrendered to Jesus.   
   >> >   
   >> > That event has everything to do with Life Eternal, yet what you claim   
   >> > appears to deny the prophecy that Jesus spoke.   
   >>   
   >> What Jesus said was true, but your narrow interpretation of what He said   
   >> was false. You falsely interpret what He said, and ignore the context that   
   >> He gave to it in the rest of the Gospels.   
   >>   
   >> Here is some biblical context on the issue. The following texts are   
   >> all the words of Jesus, and they all say that He was to be raised on,   
   >> "THE THIRD DAY"...which was Sunday morning. (Luke 24:21)   
   >>   
   >> " From that time forth began Jesus to show unto his disciples,   
   >> how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things   
   >> of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and   
   >> be raised again the third day." Matthew 16:21   
   >>   
   >> "Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be   
   >> betrayed unto the chief priests and unto the scribes, and they   
   >> shall condemn him to death, And shall deliver him to the   
   >> Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify him: and   
   >> the third day he shall rise again." Matthew 20:18.19   
   >>   
   >> "For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of   
      
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