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   From: andrew.321.remov@usa.net   
      
   "Robert" wrote in message news:vh6ut7$3aali$1@dont-email.me...   
   > Andrew wrote   
   >> "Robert" wrote:   
   >> > Andrew wrote:   
   >> > > "Robert" wrote:   
   >> > > > Andrew wrote:   
   >> > > > > "Robert" wrote:   
   >> > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > “And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called   
   Night, and   
   >> > > > > > there was evening and there was morning, the first day.” (Gen   
   1:5,   
   >> > > > > > Brenton)   
   >> > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > Yupper’s! A Full Day starts at evening time and ends at evening   
   time,   
   >> > > > > > as   
   >> > > > > > is understood by the Middle East. Night is still Night, and Day,   
   Day.   
   >> > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > Why is this important? Prophetic times in Scripture are based on   
   the   
   >> > > > > > Calendar   
   >> > > > > > timing as created by the Creator. Every year starts on the 1st   
   day of   
   >> > > > > > the   
   >> > > > > > Month in which Passover is celebrated, which is based on the Lunar   
   >> > > > > > Calendar.   
   >> > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > Every Day starts in the Evening.   
   >> > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > This Timing is also the correct time to utilize and understand   
   for the   
   >> > > > > > time   
   >> > > > > > of the Crucifixion, and the timing of the 3 days and nights that   
   Jesus   
   >> > > > > > spent   
   >> > > > > > in the belly of this earth. Which has nothing to due with “Good   
   >> > > > > > Friday”   
   >> > > > > > nor the religious days celebrated by many churches who just   
   >> > > > > > traditionally   
   >> > > > > > follow the ways of the RCC of old. For instance, “Easter” is   
   not   
   >> > > > > > found   
   >> > > > > > in   
   >> > > > > > the NT in the original Greek NT, is is only found in the Vulgate,   
   Latin   
   >> > > > > > a   
   >> > > > > > later translated to English versions.   
   >> > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > The importance of the above info needs to be understood in order   
   to   
   >> > > > > > properly project prophecy fulfillment as given by God to man.   
   >> > > > >   
   >> > > > > According to the Bible, Jesus was crucified on what we call Friday.   
   He   
   >> > > > > was   
   >> > > > > resurrected on Sunday, which was three days after He permitted   
   Himself to   
   >> > > > > be in physical control of the dark forces of this World [Thursday   
   night]   
   >> > > > > which is when he said to those who arrested Him, "but this is your   
   hour,   
   >> > > > > and the power of darkness." ~ Luke 22:53   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > Then according to you, he was killed Friday afternoon, and laid in the   
   >> > > > ground before evening,   
   >>   
   >> According to the Bible, Jesus was crucified on what we call Friday and He   
   was   
   >> resurrected on Sunday, That is easy for anyone to see who carefully reads   
   the   
   >> gospels.   
   >   
   > Then show it, where is that found?   
      
   I just told you (see above).   
      
   > Our time has no bearing on the times and days that they lived in.   
      
   This whole event is one of the greatest expressions of God's   
   love to us, and Satan has caused some to turn it into an issue   
   of polemics.   
      
   > Ask yourself, when we he buried?   
      
   Ask yourself, "What does the whole event mean to you personally?"   
      
   > And why was the rush to get in into the Ground? IOW to bury him.   
      
   Jesus  NEVER WAS BURIED "into the ground". He was   
   'temporarily' laid inside the tomb of Joseph of Arimathaea.   
                              ~Matthew 27:59-60   
      
   > Our Friday evening was the beginning of their Sabbath day.   
   > Saturday to you. And the timing of three days and three nights   
   > began with his burial.   
      
   Saying that, "the timing of three days and three nights began   
   with his burial" is your *private interpretation*, contrary to   
   the rest of the Scripture on this topic which has been pointed   
   out to you. However we have been torld......   
      
         "No prophecy of the scripture is   
           of any private interpretation"   
                         ~2 Peter 1:20   
      
   If you're trying to make an issue of Mt 12:40, then the only   
   explanation that fits is that the three days and three nights   
   began on *Thursday* night when He was arrested.   
      
   That's when He was in the control of the powers of the   
   Earth.   
      
   >Therefor there must be, three night events and also   
   > three day events. Count them. You show only two nights.   
      
   Not when you count Thursday as the first night.   
      
   >> > > > since upon Friday evening, our time, their Sabbath began.   
   >> > > > That was night 1. Then the next evening was Sunday, their time Meaning   
   >> > > > night   
   >> > > > 2, and Sunday morning He arose Day 2. Which is two nights and two   
   days,   
   >> > > > not three as the Lord Jesus prophesied.   
   >>   
   >> You are trying to fit everything into your false interpretation of Matthew   
   >> 12:40.   
   >   
   > Really? How?“For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's   
   > belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of   
   > the earth.” (Mat 12:40, KJV)   
      
   His suffering for sin began on Thursday when He went through   
   Gethsemane and was taken captive by the powers of the Earth.   
      
   > That shows three or each part of a day. Show us all how your timing fits into   
   > this. As well as the Heart/Center of the earth.   
   >   
   >> All the while ignoring what Jesus repeatedly told His disciples on this very   
   >> topic.You have made this false teaching of yours an *idol* in willful   
   violation of   
   >> the commandments of the Most High God. And in willful rejection of the   
   words of   
   >> Jesus.   
   >   
   > You have not shown any proof of me doing that. Nor have you shown and   
   > explained from scripture where I erred. Anybody can accuse others, Democrats   
   > do it all the time, and here you do it also. Again, How many Sabbaths were   
   > there that week. The Week of his being sacrificed?   
      
   They were on the same day (John 18:31).   
      
   >> When you willfully reject the words of Jesus, you are in effect rejecting   
   Him.   
   >> You are free to descend down this path that you have chosen. Even as Lucifer   
   >> was free to rebel against God when he was in heaven. But you are also free   
   to   
   >> reject Satan and choose life in the awesome power of the name of Jesus.   
   >   
   > Again with your false accusations, Your innuendoes. In the name of Jesus   
   > prove your words, back them up with scripture. Or be known as a liar, and a   
   > false witness.   
   >   
   > --   
   > All messages with alt.atheism in the headers are now filterd out beginning   
   > 10/19.So posting to aa will in effect filter all your messages from being   
   > read by me. Thus you are KF'ing yourself. VBG   
   >   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> > > You are trying to establish a doctrine based upon a narrow and   
   >> > > false understanding of Matthew 12:40.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly;   
   >> > > so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart   
   >> > > of the earth." ~ Matthew 12:40.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > The term, "heart of the earth" as used here is a, "figure of speech"   
   >> > > which is a non-literal literary device. But you are trying to force   
      
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