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   Andrew to Robert   
   Re: FYI - Day as God Ordained. (2/2)   
   16 Nov 24 04:49:27   
   
   [continued from previous message]   
      
   >> > > a literal interpretation out of it, which is out of harmony with the   
   >> > > rest of the Bible, and the words of Jesus.   
   >> >   
   >> > John 2   
   >> > 19 esus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in   
   >> > three days I will raise it up.   
   >>   
   >> Which is exactly what happened. On the third day He was raised up.   
   >>   
   >> > 20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building,   
   and   
   >> > wilt thou rear it up in three days?   
   >> >   
   >> > 21But he spake of the temple of his body.   
   >> >   
   >> > Ephesians 4:9(KJV)   
   >> >   
   >> > 9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into   
   >> > the   
   >> > lower parts of the earth?   
   >> >   
   >> > There is much scripture like those above which supports what Jesus Spoke.   
   >> > Both in the old as well as the new testaments.   
   >>   
   >> Yes, but they don't support your out of context interpretation.   
   >>   
   >> > This is not from the doctrine of men, but of God.   
   >>   
   >> Your out of context interpretation is_ not_from God.   
   >>   
   >> > So before you start throwing out accusation after accusations,   
   >> > you would do well to study the full word of God.   
   >>   
   >> If you actually did that, you would see where your   
   >> interpretation was contrary to the words of Jesus.   
   >>   
   >> > > > So how does that verse support what you are trying to say.?   
   >> > >   
   >> > > Jesus did not descend down to the center of the planet. But   
   >> > > He was in the control of the dark forces of this realm from   
   >> > > that time [Thursday night] until He was resurrected on   
   >> > > Sunday morning.   
   >> >   
   >> > You are changing goal posts here, why? As you stated, our current Thursday   
   >> > night was their beginning of Friday. And if you were to read scripture,   
   >> > similar tp that which I showed you from above, you would see that he   
   >> > descended into the belly of the earth, as Jonah. The heart == is   
   understood   
   >> > as “the Center” even today.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > > > These are events of the highest significance that have rich   
   spiritual   
   >> > > > > meaning to those whose hearts are surrendered to Jesus.   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > That event has everything to do with Life Eternal, yet what you claim   
   >> > > > appears to deny the prophecy that Jesus spoke.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > What Jesus said was true, but your narrow interpretation of what He said   
   >> > > was false. You falsely interpret what He said, and ignore the context   
   that   
   >> > > He gave to it in the rest of the Gospels.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > Here is some biblical context on the issue. The following texts are   
   >> > > all the words of Jesus, and they all say that He was to be raised on,   
   >> > > "THE THIRD DAY"...which was Sunday morning. (Luke 24:21)   
   >> > >   
   >> > > " From that time forth began Jesus to show unto his disciples,   
   >> > > how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things   
   >> > > of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and   
   >> > > be raised again the third day." Matthew 16:21   
   >> > >   
   >> > > "Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be   
   >> > > betrayed unto the chief priests and unto the scribes, and they   
   >> > > shall condemn him to death, And shall deliver him to the   
   >> > > Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify him: and   
   >> > > the third day he shall rise again." Matthew 20:18.19   
   >> > >   
   >> > > "For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of   
   >> > > man is delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him;   
   >> > > and after that he is killed, he shall rise the third day." Mark 9:31   
   >> > >   
   >> > > "He took again the twelve, and began to tell them what things   
   >> > > should happen unto him, Saying, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem;   
   >> > > and the Son of man shall be delivered unto the chief priests, and   
   >> > > unto the scribes; and they shall condemn him to death, and shall   
   >> > > deliver him to the Gentiles:And they shall mock him, and shall   
   >> > > scourge him, and shall spit upon him, and shall kill him: and the   
   >> > > third day he shall rise again."   
   >> > > Mark 10:32-34   
   >> > >   
   >> > > "The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the   
   >> > > elders and chief priests and scribes, and be slain, and be raised   
   >> > > the third day." Luke 9:22 .   
   >> > >   
   >> > > "For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked,   
   >> > > and spitefully entreated, and spitted on:And they shall scourge   
   >> > > him and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again."   
   >> > > Luke 18:32   
   >> > >   
   >> > > The "third day" was Sunday morning. ~ Luke 24:21   
   >> >   
   >> > You refuse to see the obvious.   
   >>   
   >> Your contention is with Jesus, because those were all   
   >> HIS WORDS that were cited.   
   >>   
   >> > The timing of all this begins when Jesus was buried. NOT   
   >> > when he was killed.   
   >>   
   >> Jesus told exactly what was to happen to Him, and that He   
   >> would rise again on "the third day".The Bible testifies that   
   >> this is exactly what happened.   
   >>   
   >> These are events of the highest significance that have rich   
   >> spiritual meaning to those whose hearts are surrendered to   
   >> Jesus.   
   >>   
   >> However since Satan hates Jesus, he will work upon the   
   >> minds of some who are unstable to focus on some false   
   >> technicality in attempt to destroy the rich spiritual   
   >> meaning of these awesome events..   
   >>   
   >> > Day as in 24 hours began at sunset in that   
   >> > time, and no matter how you try to gerrymander things, that is a fixed   
   fact,   
   >> > and it is how things occurred in that day in their everyday real life. God   
   >> > established the meaning of ‘Day' at the time of creation of all things   
   you   
   >> > see. Day begins in the evening.   
   >>   
   >> According to your understanding, please state exactly what day   
   >> you say He was crucified and what day you say He was raised.   
   >>   
   >> The Bible is clear on these things. But tells us what you say, if   
   >> you have the courage to do so.   
      
   Robert has decided not to answer my   
   above question for obvious reasons.   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
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