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   From: robert@no.way   
      
   On Nov 16, 2024, Andrew wrote   
   (Message-ID: ):   
      
   > "Robert" wrote in message news:vh6ut7$3aali$1@dont-email.me...   
   > > Andrew wrote   
   > > > "Robert" wrote:   
   > > > > Andrew wrote:   
   > > > > > "Robert" wrote:   
   > > > > > > Andrew wrote:   
   > > > > > > > "Robert" wrote:   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > “And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called   
   Night, and   
   > > > > > > > > there was evening and there was morning, the first day.”   
   (Gen 1:5,   
   > > > > > > > > Brenton)   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > Yupper’s! A Full Day starts at evening time and ends at   
   evening   
   > > > > > > > > time,   
   > > > > > > > > as   
   > > > > > > > > is understood by the Middle East. Night is still Night, and   
   Day, Day.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > Why is this important? Prophetic times in Scripture are based   
   on the   
   > > > > > > > > Calendar   
   > > > > > > > > timing as created by the Creator. Every year starts on the 1st   
   day of   
   > > > > > > > > the   
   > > > > > > > > Month in which Passover is celebrated, which is based on the   
   Lunar   
   > > > > > > > > Calendar.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > Every Day starts in the Evening.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > This Timing is also the correct time to utilize and understand   
   for the   
   > > > > > > > > time   
   > > > > > > > > of the Crucifixion, and the timing of the 3 days and nights   
   that Jesus   
   > > > > > > > > spent   
   > > > > > > > > in the belly of this earth. Which has nothing to due with   
   “Good   
   > > > > > > > > Friday”   
   > > > > > > > > nor the religious days celebrated by many churches who just   
   > > > > > > > > traditionally   
   > > > > > > > > follow the ways of the RCC of old. For instance, “Easter”   
   is not   
   > > > > > > > > found   
   > > > > > > > > in   
   > > > > > > > > the NT in the original Greek NT, is is only found in the   
   Vulgate,   
   > > > > > > > > Latin   
   > > > > > > > > a   
   > > > > > > > > later translated to English versions.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > The importance of the above info needs to be understood in   
   order to   
   > > > > > > > > properly project prophecy fulfillment as given by God to man.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > According to the Bible, Jesus was crucified on what we call   
   Friday. He   
   > > > > > > > was   
   > > > > > > > resurrected on Sunday, which was three days after He permitted   
   Himself   
   > > > > > > > to be in physical control of the dark forces of this World   
   [Thursday   
   > > > > > > > night]   
   > > > > > > > which is when he said to those who arrested Him, "but this is   
   your   
   > > > > > > > hour, and the power of darkness." ~ Luke 22:53   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Then according to you, he was killed Friday afternoon, and laid in   
   the   
   > > > > > > ground before evening,   
   > > >   
   > > > According to the Bible, Jesus was crucified on what we call Friday and He   
   > > > was resurrected on Sunday, That is easy for anyone to see who carefully   
   reads   
   > > > the gospels.   
   > >   
   > > Then show it, where is that found?   
   >   
   > I just told you (see above).   
      
   Yes, and it was false, incorrect, and is Untrue.   
   If truth were important to you, then you would have followed out my clue to   
   you, so that you could discover truth on your own. But you refused to do so.   
   Even when you know that the prophecy stated 3 days and 3 nights, not 3days   
   and 3 nights.   
      
   To this day, Religious Jews celebrate the Sabbath starting Friday Evening. To   
   them that is still “Saturday”. Day 7. Even here in the good ‘ol U.S. of   
   A.   
   >   
   >   
   > > Our time has no bearing on the times and days that they lived in.   
   >   
   > This whole event is one of the greatest expressions of God's   
   > love to us, and Satan has caused some to turn it into an issue   
   > of polemics.   
      
   You were and are the one who turned this whole subject into one of polemics.   
   Why?   
   Are you stating that no matter what the word of God says, you are to be   
   believed over the inspired Word of God?   
      
   Jesus lived and died, a Jew. Ordained to do so before this world was created.   
   >   
   >   
   > > Ask yourself, when we he buried?   
   >   
   > Ask yourself, "What does the whole event mean to you personally?"   
      
   You never addressed my direct question to you, of when was he buried.   
      
   As to your question, the whole event and the truthfulness of it is very much   
   important, not only for those that actually believed, but to the heathens who   
   do not, yet see so-called christians spouting off about false days and   
   timings out of ignorance and or false doctrines. Any historian known that   
   Jesus was a Jew, and thus under the law of Moses and studied all the old   
   prophesies could rip people who believe the doctrines you claim to, to   
   shreds. Thus if you teach a false gospel, and they see your errors, as well   
   as your lack of Love, would have an excuse not to believe. Would you want to   
   have their blood on your hands?   
   >   
   >   
   > > And why was the rush to get in into the Ground? IOW to bury him.   
   >   
   > Jesus NEVER WAS BURIED "into the ground". He was   
   > 'temporarily' laid inside the tomb of Joseph of Arimathaea.   
   > > Matthew 27:59-60   
      
   “And when Joseph had taken the body, he wrapped it in a clean linen cloth,   
   And laid it in his own new tomb, which he had hewn out in the rock: and he   
   rolled a great stone to the door of the sepulchre, and departed.” (Mat   
   27:59-60, KJV)   
      
   As you can see here there was no human intention of “temporarily being laid   
   in the ground.” And rocks are part of the ground one walks on, fully part   
   of this earth, of which he descended into the 'heart' of the earth.   
      
   You did not answer my question, "why the Rush to bury Him"?   
      
   >   
   > > Our Friday evening was the beginning of their Sabbath day.   
   > > Saturday to you. And the timing of three days and three nights   
   > > began with his burial.   
   >   
   > Saying that, "the timing of three days and three nights began   
   > with his burial" is your *private interpretation*, contrary to   
   > the rest of the Scripture on this topic which has been pointed   
   > out to you. However we have been torld......   
   >   
   > "No prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation"   
   > > 2 Peter 1:20   
      
   Then why do you claim to be the ‘correct one’? Hmmmm?   
      
   Especially when I gave you the exact scripture pointing it out, per the Words   
   of Jesus Which you chose to ignore. “In the Belly of the” started the 3   
   and 3.   
      
   >   
   > If you're trying to make an issue of Mt 12:40, then the only   
   > explanation that fits is that the three days and three nights   
   > began on *Thursday* night when He was arrested.   
      
   When he was arrested, he was NOT destroyed. He was not even found guilty.   
   PLUS, On top of that, you don’t even know what day or night he was   
   arrested.   
      
   Again I will reiterate the fact that you are totally unaware of how many   
      
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