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   Sabbath days there were that week and upon what days they fell. And those   
   days were held in high regards by the Jews of that day, by which the   
   prophecies were timed,   
   >   
   > That's when He was in the control of the powers of the   
   > Earth.   
      
   Now Like MM you make up your own doctrines?   
   >   
   >   
   > > Therefor there must be, three night events and also   
   > > three day events. Count them. You show only two nights.   
   >   
   > Not when you count Thursday as the first night.   
      
   You have not proven that day, either by scripture or historically. Yet it   
   bothers you not in the least.   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > > since upon Friday evening, our time, their Sabbath began.   
   > > > > > > That was night 1. Then the next evening was Sunday, their time   
   Meaning   
   > > > > > > night   
   > > > > > > 2, and Sunday morning He arose Day 2. Which is two nights and two   
   days,   
   > > > > > > not three as the Lord Jesus prophesied.   
   > > >   
   > > > You are trying to fit everything into your false interpretation of   
   Matthew   
   > > > 12:40.   
   > >   
   > > Really? How?“For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's   
   > > belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart   
   > > of the earth.” (Mat 12:40, KJV)   
   >   
   > His suffering for sin began on Thursday when He went through   
   > Gethsemane and was taken captive by the powers of the Earth.   
      
   What powers of “the Earth”? Especially since he was not destroyed at that   
   time regardless of what day it was in actuality.   
      
   When your face got all dirty as a child, by playing outside, or in the mud,   
   were you then “gripped by evil”? Can’t you see how ridiculous that   
   statement is?   
   >   
   >   
   > > That shows three or each part of a day. Show us all how your timing fits   
   > > into this. As well as the Heart/Center of the earth.   
   > >   
   > > > All the while ignoring what Jesus repeatedly told His disciples on this   
   > > > very topic.You have made this false teaching of yours an *idol* in   
   willful   
   > > > violation of   
   > > > the commandments of the Most High God. And in willful rejection of the   
   > > > words of Jesus.   
   > >   
   > > You have not shown any proof of me doing that. Nor have you shown and   
   > > explained from scripture where I erred. Anybody can accuse others,   
   Democrats   
   > > do it all the time, and here you do it also. Again, How many Sabbaths were   
   > > there that week. The Week of his being sacrificed?   
   >   
   > They were on the same day (John 18:31).   
      
   That statement had not one thing to do with the sabbaths. It had nothing to   
   do with being destroyed, only the method of his being destroyed, but nothing   
   to do, even then, with his being placed into the belly of the earth. Even   
   then, how long does it take for flesh to begin to get corrupted?   
   >   
   >   
   > > > When you willfully reject the words of Jesus, you are in effect rejecting   
   > > > Him. You are free to descend down this path that you have chosen. Even as   
   > > > Lucifer   
   > > > was free to rebel against God when he was in heaven. But you are also   
   free   
   > > > to reject Satan and choose life in the awesome power of the name of   
   Jesus.   
   > >   
   > > Again with your false accusations, Your innuendoes. In the name of Jesus   
   > > prove your words, back them up with scripture. Or be known as a liar, and a   
   > > false witness.   
   > >   
   > > --   
   > > All messages with alt.atheism in the headers are now filterd out beginning   
   > > 10/19.So posting to aa will in effect filter all your messages from being   
   > > read by me. Thus you are KF'ing yourself. VBG   
   > >   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > > > > You are trying to establish a doctrine based upon a narrow and   
   > > > > > false understanding of Matthew 12:40.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly;   
   > > > > > so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart   
   > > > > > of the earth." ~ Matthew 12:40.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > The term, "heart of the earth" as used here is a, "figure of speech"   
   > > > > > which is a non-literal literary device. But you are trying to force   
   > > > > > a literal interpretation out of it, which is out of harmony with the   
   > > > > > rest of the Bible, and the words of Jesus.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > John 2   
   > > > > 19 esus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in   
   > > > > three days I will raise it up.   
   > > >   
   > > > Which is exactly what happened. On the third day He was raised up.   
   > > >   
   > > > > 20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building,   
   > > > > and   
   > > > > wilt thou rear it up in three days?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > 21But he spake of the temple of his body.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Ephesians 4:9(KJV)   
   > > > >   
   > > > > 9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first   
   into   
   > > > > the   
   > > > > lower parts of the earth?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > There is much scripture like those above which supports what Jesus   
   Spoke.   
   > > > > Both in the old as well as the new testaments.   
   > > >   
   > > > Yes, but they don't support your out of context interpretation.   
   > > >   
   > > > > This is not from the doctrine of men, but of God.   
   > > >   
   > > > Your out of context interpretation is_ not_from God.   
   > > >   
   > > > > So before you start throwing out accusation after accusations,   
   > > > > you would do well to study the full word of God.   
   > > >   
   > > > If you actually did that, you would see where your   
   > > > interpretation was contrary to the words of Jesus.   
   > > >   
   > > > > > > So how does that verse support what you are trying to say.?   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Jesus did not descend down to the center of the planet. But   
   > > > > > He was in the control of the dark forces of this realm from   
   > > > > > that time [Thursday night] until He was resurrected on   
   > > > > > Sunday morning.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > You are changing goal posts here, why? As you stated, our current   
   Thursday   
   > > > > night was their beginning of Friday. And if you were to read scripture,   
   > > > > similar tp that which I showed you from above, you would see that he   
   > > > > descended into the belly of the earth, as Jonah. The heart == is   
   > > > > understood   
   > > > > as “the Center” even today.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > These are events of the highest significance that have rich   
   spiritual   
   > > > > > > > meaning to those whose hearts are surrendered to Jesus.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > That event has everything to do with Life Eternal, yet what you   
   claim   
   > > > > > > appears to deny the prophecy that Jesus spoke.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > What Jesus said was true, but your narrow interpretation of what He   
   said   
   > > > > > was false. You falsely interpret what He said, and ignore the context   
   > > > > > that   
   > > > > > He gave to it in the rest of the Gospels.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Here is some biblical context on the issue. The following texts are   
   > > > > > all the words of Jesus, and they all say that He was to be raised on,   
   > > > > > "THE THIRD DAY"...which was Sunday morning. (Luke 24:21)   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > " From that time forth began Jesus to show unto his disciples,   
   > > > > > how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things   
   > > > > > of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and   
   > > > > > be raised again the third day." Matthew 16:21   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > "Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be   
   > > > > > betrayed unto the chief priests and unto the scribes, and they   
   > > > > > shall condemn him to death, And shall deliver him to the   
   > > > > > Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify him: and   
   > > > > > the third day he shall rise again." Matthew 20:18.19   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > "For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of   
      
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