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From: robert@no.way
On Nov 26, 2024, Andrew wrote
(Message-ID: <%il1P.323337$DBH7.37580@fx01.ams4>):
> "Christ Rose" wrote in message
> news:1e6e0633-c5be-4e46-bd1d-4a6ad72b9676@christrose.news...
> > ========================================
> > Robert wrote:
> > ========================================
> > > Mat 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the
> > > commandments of men.
> > >
> > > Jhn 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when
ye
> > > shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
> > >
> > > Jhn 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what weworship: for
salvation
> > > is of the Jews.
> > >
> > > Jhn 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall
> > > worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such
> > > toworship him.
> > >
> > > Jhn 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they thatworship him must worship himin
> > > spirit
> > > and in truth.
> _________________________________________________________
>
> > You have selected a bunch of verses which indicate we worship the Father,
> > while skipping over those which indicate we should
> > worship the Son:
> >
> > - Matthew 2:11: "And going into the house, they saw the child with Mary his
> > mother, and they fell down and worshiped him. Then,
> > opening their treasures, they offered him gifts, gold and frankincense and
> > myrrh" (ESV).
> >
> > - Matthew 14:33: "And those in the boat worshiped him, saying, 'Truly you
> > are the Son of God'" (ESV).
> >
> > - Matthew 28:9: "And behold, Jesus met them and said, 'Greetings!' And they
> > came up and took hold of his feet and worshiped him"
> > (ESV).
> >
> > - Matthew 28:17: "And when they saw him they worshiped him, but some
> > doubted" (ESV).
> >
> > - John 9:38: "He said, 'Lord, I believe,' and he worshiped him" (ESV).
> >
> > - John 20:28: "Thomas answered him, 'My Lord and my God!'" (ESV).
> >
> > - Philippians 2:10-11: "So that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
> > in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every
> > tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father"
> > (ESV).
> >
> > - Hebrews 1:6: "And again, when he brings the firstborn into the world, he
> > says, 'Let all God’s angels worship him'" (ESV).
> >
> > - Revelation 5:11-14: "Then I looked, and I heard around the throne and the
> > living creatures and the elders the voice of many
> > angels, numbering myriads of myriads and thousands of thousands, saying
> > with a loud voice, 'Worthy is the Lamb who was slain, to
> > receive power and wealth and wisdom and might and honor and glory and
> > blessing!' And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth
> > and under the earth and in the sea, and all that is in them, saying, 'To
> > him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be blessing
> > and honor and glory and might forever and ever!' And the four living
> > creatures said, 'Amen!' and the elders fell down and
> > worshiped" (ESV).
>
> Wow! Excellent Scriptures on worshipping Jesus!
>
> Since Satan hates Jesus, he will move upon those
> he controls to disparage the idea of worshipping
> Jesus.
>
> Now I understand ~why~ Robert doesn't want to
> worship Jesus.
>
> Hopefully he will repent of his rebellion against
> our loving Creator, the living God.
>
> Otherwise he will eventually share the destiny of
> the first great rebel and his followers.
>
> Revelation 20:10
Those who love not their brother are not of God.
“In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil:
whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not
his brother.” (1Jn 3:10, KJV)
“Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words:
and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode
with him. He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye
hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me. These things have I spoken
unto you, being yet present with you. But the Comforter, which is the Holy
Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things,
and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth,
give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid. Ye
have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye
loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my
Father is greater than I. And now I have told you before it come to pass,
that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.
Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh,
and hath nothing in me. But that the world may know that I love the Father;
and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go
hence.” (Jhn 14:23-31, KJV)
“If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he
that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he
hath not seen?” (1Jn 4:20, KJV)
Here you both can see, if you care to worship Jesus, that to do so means that
you follow His Commandments. Slandering others, and condemning them is not
done out of Love.
If you Worship Jesus then your first and sole desire is to honor him, his
teachings and the words of the Heavenly Father. You cannot pick ’n chose
what you want and exclude the rest so that your carnal hearts can rest in
ignorance. As Jesus says, you must Love God with ALL your heart and ALL your
soul.
Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy
heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Mrk 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy Godwith all thy heart, and with
all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the
first commandment.
Yet here is an example of the likemindedness of both of you, as well as many
others, in the days of Yeshua’s time on earth.
Luk 10:25 (KJV) And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him,
saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
Luk 10:26 (KJV) He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest
thou?
Luk 10:27 (KJV) And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with
all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all
thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
Luk 10:28 (KJV) And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and
thou shalt live.
Luk 10:29 (KJV) But he, willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus, And who
is my neighbour?
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