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   Robert to zebra2@windstream.net   
   Re: Who Did Jesus say to Worship? (2/2)   
   28 Nov 24 09:55:00   
   
   [continued from previous message]   
      
   representations of Christ John has already given, whereby he in citing or   
   alluding to Old Testament passages has applied to Jesus Christ in the book of   
   Revelation what is in the Old Testament spoken of Jehovah (see related notes   
   at Act 11:21 note. Col 1:16 note. +*1Pe 2:3 note). Herman Gebhardt states   
   "that qualities, actions, and conditions which belong specifically to God,   
   are also ascribed to Christ, and to Him only," and "in Old Testament   
   expressions things which otherwise belong to God are frequently affirmed of   
   Christ. It is said of Christ that ’His head and His hairs were white like   
   wool,’ Rev 1:14; and in Dan 7:9, God is so represented. The eyes of Christ   
   are as a flame of fire, Rev 1:14; Rev 2:18; Rev 19:12; and in the same words   
   God’s omniscience is symbolized as directed with holy indignation against   
   all unrighteousness, Dan 10:6, The feet of Christ are ’like unto fine   
   brass, as if they burned in an oven,’ Rev 1:15; Rev 2:18; the same image   
   represents God’s power in treading down the wicked, Dan 10:6; Ezk 1:7, The   
   voice of Christ is as the voice of many waters, Rev 1:15; and we find a   
   similar representation of God’s power against His enemies, Dan 10:6; Ezk   
   1:24; Ezk 43:2; Psa 93:3, Christ’s countenance is as the sun shining in his   
   strength, Rev 1:16; and so it is said of God, Dan 10:6 (compare Jdg 5:21).   
   The seer fell down before Christ as if dead, Rev 1:17; a similar effect was   
   wrought by the appearance of God, Exo 33:20; Isa 6:5; Ezk 1:28; Dan 8:17-18;   
   Dan 10:7-9, Christ says, ’I am He that searcheth the reins and hearts, and   
   will give unto every one of you according to your works,’ Rev 2:23; and we   
   read that ’the righteous God trieth the hearts and reins,’ Psa 7:9, and   
   that He ’renders to every man according to his work,’ Psa 62:12, Christ   
   says, ’As many as I love I rebuke and chasten,’ Rev 3:19; and in Pro 3:12   
   we read ’whom the Lord loveth He correcteth.’ Christ calls Himself ’the   
   Amen,’ Rev 3:14; and the same expression is used of God, Isa 65:16, The   
   Lamb has ’seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God   
   sent forth into all the earth,’ Rev 5:6; and in Zec 4:10 we read of ’the   
   eyes of the Lord, which run to and fro through the whole earth.’ According   
   to Rev 7:17, the Lamb will feed His people, and lead them to fountains of   
   living waters; and the same thing is said of Jehovah in Isa 49:10, What is   
   said of the anger of Christ, Rev 19:15 (compare Rev 14:10; Rev 14:14-16), is   
   drawn from a similar passage respecting God in Isa 63:1-6, The ’vesture   
   dipped in blood,’ worn by Christ, Rev 19:12, is said to have been worn by   
   God, Isa 63:1-2” [UCRT]   
      
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   > Yes, Jesus was the very first act of creation by God. And is His   
   > firstborn Son. That is why he is so special to God and all of us.   
      
   As you can see from what was stipulated above, you and your org are in   
   previous error.   
   The end of which will result in eternal death, wherein the flames of torment   
   never cease, and the worm dieth not. From which a person can be delivered if   
   they were Born Again, into the newness of Life through Yeshua the Messiah,   
   The one who was risen from the dead. Yeshua/Jesus.   
      
   See if you can disprove all of the above.   
   >   
   >   
   > Sincerely James.   
      
   I also just noted that you were responding to AI Rosie. Nonetheless I am   
   leaving my reply to you in this post.   
      
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   >   
   > >   
   > > - Matthew 2:11: "And going into the house, they saw the child with Mary   
   > > his mother, and they fell down and worshiped him. Then, opening their   
   > > treasures, they offered him gifts, gold and frankincense and myrrh" (ESV).   
   > >   
   > > - Matthew 14:33: "And those in the boat worshiped him, saying, 'Truly   
   > > you are the Son of God'" (ESV).   
   > >   
   > > - Matthew 28:9: "And behold, Jesus met them and said, 'Greetings!' And   
   > > they came up and took hold of his feet and worshiped him" (ESV).   
   > >   
   > > - Matthew 28:17: "And when they saw him they worshiped him, but some   
   > > doubted" (ESV).   
   > >   
   > > - John 9:38: "He said, 'Lord, I believe,' and he worshiped him" (ESV).   
   > >   
   > > - John 20:28: "Thomas answered him, 'My Lord and my God!'" (ESV).   
   > >   
   > > - Philippians 2:10-11: "So that at the name of Jesus every knee should   
   > > bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue   
   > > confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father" (ESV).   
   > >   
   > > - Hebrews 1:6: "And again, when he brings the firstborn into the world,   
   > > he says, 'Let all God’s angels worship him'" (ESV).   
   > >   
   > > - Revelation 5:11-14: "Then I looked, and I heard around the throne and   
   > > the living creatures and the elders the voice of many angels, numbering   
   > > myriads of myriads and thousands of thousands, saying with a loud voice,   
   > > 'Worthy is the Lamb who was slain, to receive power and wealth and   
   > > wisdom and might and honor and glory and blessing!' And I heard every   
   > > creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea, and   
   > > all that is in them, saying, 'To him who sits on the throne and to the   
   > > Lamb be blessing and honor and glory and might forever and ever!' And   
   > > the four living creatures said, 'Amen!' and the elders fell down and   
   > > worshiped" (ESV).   
      
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