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|    Michael Ejercito to All    |
|    =?UTF-8?Q?Re_Abortion:_Another_=e2=80=9c    |
|    28 May 25 06:27:42    |
      XPost: sci.med.cardiology, soc.culture.usa, soc.culture.israel       XPost: talk.abortion       From: MEjercit@HotMail.com              https://ethicsalarms.com/2025/05/28/re-abortion-another-bias-mak       s-you-stupid-op-ed-in-the-nyt/              Re Abortion: Another “Bias Makes You Stupid” Op-Ed in the NYT       May 28, 2025 / Jack Marshall                     It’s kind of funny when headline writers are so clueless and biased that       what they think is a “res ipsa loquitur” story proving one thing       actually reveals something completely different.              The headline on a Times op-ed ed last week was “A Brain-Dead Woman Is       Being Kept on Machines to Gestate a Fetus. It Was Inevitable.” (I’m       using my last gift link of the month on this one, so you’d better read       it!) The writer was Kimberly Mutcherson, a professor at Rutgers Law School.              The entire piece radiates contempt for the concept of treating the       unborn as human lives, which, you know, they are and rather undeniably       so. Readers are informed that Adriana Smith is brain dead, and has been       connected to life support machines for more than 90 days to save the       life of her baby. Smith was nine weeks pregnant when she died from       multiple blood clots in her brain.              “Her fetus’s heart continued to beat,” writes the professor, as if it       was an abandoned car with a functioning carburetor. Georgia, she       explains, is one of those crazy, fetus-worshiping states where a nascent       human being is deemed a human life that can’t be snuffed out on a whim       if it has a heartbeat. This, to the op-ed’s author, the headline writer       and the New York Times is completely unfathomable.                     “Legislators did not seem to have considered a situation in which a       pregnant woman is legally dead,” she sneers. Funny, I don’t see why the       death of the mother compels the decision that the child she is carrying       should be considered a non-person and a life not worth saving. The       professor quotes the dead woman’s mother as saying, “We want the baby.       That’s a part of my daughter. But the decision should have been left to       us — not the state.” Wait: don’t we all believe that it is a proper       function of the state to protect the lives of human beings and to pass       laws that embody that duty? Do families have the option of letting the       children of parents who are killed die from neglect because it’s the       family’s “choice”?                     What is stunning (depressing, annoying, telling) about Mutcherson’s       essay is that she can’t grasp why anyone would argue that a brain dead       mother should be kept alive so a vulnerable human being can become       strong enough to live a life outside her womb. Many quotes in the op-ed       make that clear, like…              “Reproductive justice advocates have long been clear that abortion law       is never only about abortion. It is about the exercise of control over       all pregnant women, regardless of whether they plan to carry their       pregnancies to term. That’s why the anti-abortion movement has pursued a       broad agenda of legal personhood for embryos and fetuses.” My comment:       “The Horror”! These misguided people think that a human being’s life       should be saved if at all possible. The monsters! This is the “It isn’t       what it is,” “Handmaiden’s Tale” propaganda of the political left, not       objective analysis. Anti-abortion advocates think that living human       beings shouldn’t be killed, that’s all. The position has nothing to do       with “controlling” the people who want to kill them any more than laws       against murder are “about the exercise of control” over citizens who       would like to kill someone.       “This kind of catastrophic event was inevitable, given the expansive and       imprecise laws written by legislators who generally lack medical       expertise, and the inability of politicians to fully predict every       emergency situation.” My comment: The professor isn’t referring to the       mother’s death as the “catastrophic event,” but rather the brain dead       woman’s body being kept functioning so her baby can be born. I can       conceive of valid arguments for why this should be considered bad policy       or a situation requiring special legislation. But what’s the       catastrophe? The author is incapable of comprehending that in a       utilitarian analysis, a Kantian analysis favoring human life, and       reciprocity principles (“If you were the fetus, what would you want the       hospital to do?”), the situation is thoroughly defensible.       “Emory University Hospital, once Ms. Smith’s place of employment, would       not be legally allowed to remove organs from a brain-dead person without       family consent if this person hadn’t previously registered her wish to       be a donor, even if doing so could save or improve dozens of lives.       However, according to Ms. Smith’s mother, the hospital informed her       that, because of the fetus her daughter was carrying, it could not       legally withdraw the artificial means of keeping her body functioning.”       My comment: So? The professor thinks that’s an apt analogy: the dead       woman’s organs can’t be harvested without her prior consent, so they       will be allowed to die along with her. But a liver isn’t a human being.       Never mind; abortion advocates can’t concede that what is at stake in an       abortion decision is a second human life. If they do, they know what       abortion becomes.       “Knowing the tremendous work that the body of a pregnant woman must do       to sustain and nourish a pregnancy, the harm to the fetus from being       trapped inside a body without a functioning brain cannot be known with       certainty.” My comment: Consequentialism, the refuge of the ethically       inert: “It’s a bad decision because it might not work.”       Mutcherson concludes by calling the situation “dystopian”—there’s       “The       Handmaiden’s Tale” mentality again. She can see no benefit or reason to       try to save a human life. Bias has not only rendered her stupid, but so       morally and ethically blind she can’t see the other side of a genuine       ethics conflict.              --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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