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|    Michael Ejercito to HeartDoc Andrew    |
|    Re: (Kimberly) Greeting Michael Ejercito    |
|    28 May 25 13:49:17    |
      XPost: sci.med.cardiology, soc.culture.usa, soc.culture.israel       XPost: talk.abortion, alt.christnet.christianlife       From: MEjercit@HotMail.com              HeartDoc Andrew wrote:       > Michael Ejercito wrote:       >       >> https://ethicsalarms.com/2025/05/28/re-abortion-another-bias-       akes-you-stupid-op-ed-in-the-nyt/       >>       >> Re Abortion: Another “Bias Makes You Stupid” Op-Ed in the NYT       >> May 28, 2025 / Jack Marshall       >>       >>       >> It’s kind of funny when headline writers are so clueless and biased that       >> what they think is a “res ipsa loquitur” story proving one thing       >> actually reveals something completely different.       >>       >> The headline on a Times op-ed ed last week was “A Brain-Dead Woman Is       >> Being Kept on Machines to Gestate a Fetus. It Was Inevitable.” (I’m       >> using my last gift link of the month on this one, so you’d better read       >> it!) The writer was Kimberly Mutcherson, a professor at Rutgers Law School.       >>       >> The entire piece radiates contempt for the concept of treating the       >> unborn as human lives, which, you know, they are and rather undeniably       >> so. Readers are informed that Adriana Smith is brain dead, and has been       >> connected to life support machines for more than 90 days to save the       >> life of her baby. Smith was nine weeks pregnant when she died from       >> multiple blood clots in her brain.       >>       >> “Her fetus’s heart continued to beat,” writes the professor, as if it       >> was an abandoned car with a functioning carburetor. Georgia, she       >> explains, is one of those crazy, fetus-worshiping states where a nascent       >> human being is deemed a human life that can’t be snuffed out on a whim       >> if it has a heartbeat. This, to the op-ed’s author, the headline writer       >> and the New York Times is completely unfathomable.       >>       >>       >> “Legislators did not seem to have considered a situation in which a       >> pregnant woman is legally dead,” she sneers. Funny, I don’t see why the       >> death of the mother compels the decision that the child she is carrying       >> should be considered a non-person and a life not worth saving. The       >> professor quotes the dead woman’s mother as saying, “We want the baby.       >> That’s a part of my daughter. But the decision should have been left to       >> us — not the state.” Wait: don’t we all believe that it is a proper       >> function of the state to protect the lives of human beings and to pass       >> laws that embody that duty? Do families have the option of letting the       >> children of parents who are killed die from neglect because it’s the       >> family’s “choice”?       >>       >>       >> What is stunning (depressing, annoying, telling) about Mutcherson’s       >> essay is that she can’t grasp why anyone would argue that a brain dead       >> mother should be kept alive so a vulnerable human being can become       >> strong enough to live a life outside her womb. Many quotes in the op-ed       >> make that clear, like…       >>       >> “Reproductive justice advocates have long been clear that abortion law       >> is never only about abortion. It is about the exercise of control over       >> all pregnant women, regardless of whether they plan to carry their       >> pregnancies to term. That’s why the anti-abortion movement has pursued a       >> broad agenda of legal personhood for embryos and fetuses.” My comment:       >> “The Horror”! These misguided people think that a human being’s life       >> should be saved if at all possible. The monsters! This is the “It isn’t       >> what it is,” “Handmaiden’s Tale” propaganda of the political left,       not       >> objective analysis. Anti-abortion advocates think that living human       >> beings shouldn’t be killed, that’s all. The position has nothing to do       >> with “controlling” the people who want to kill them any more than laws       >> against murder are “about the exercise of control” over citizens who       >> would like to kill someone.       >> “This kind of catastrophic event was inevitable, given the expansive and       >> imprecise laws written by legislators who generally lack medical       >> expertise, and the inability of politicians to fully predict every       >> emergency situation.” My comment: The professor isn’t referring to the       >> mother’s death as the “catastrophic event,” but rather the brain dead       >> woman’s body being kept functioning so her baby can be born. I can       >> conceive of valid arguments for why this should be considered bad policy       >> or a situation requiring special legislation. But what’s the       >> catastrophe? The author is incapable of comprehending that in a       >> utilitarian analysis, a Kantian analysis favoring human life, and       >> reciprocity principles (“If you were the fetus, what would you want the       >> hospital to do?”), the situation is thoroughly defensible.       >> “Emory University Hospital, once Ms. Smith’s place of employment, would       >> not be legally allowed to remove organs from a brain-dead person without       >> family consent if this person hadn’t previously registered her wish to       >> be a donor, even if doing so could save or improve dozens of lives.       >> However, according to Ms. Smith’s mother, the hospital informed her       >> that, because of the fetus her daughter was carrying, it could not       >> legally withdraw the artificial means of keeping her body functioning.”       >> My comment: So? The professor thinks that’s an apt analogy: the dead       >> woman’s organs can’t be harvested without her prior consent, so they       >> will be allowed to die along with her. But a liver isn’t a human being.       >> Never mind; abortion advocates can’t concede that what is at stake in an       >> abortion decision is a second human life. If they do, they know what       >> abortion becomes.       >> “Knowing the tremendous work that the body of a pregnant woman must do       >> to sustain and nourish a pregnancy, the harm to the fetus from being       >> trapped inside a body without a functioning brain cannot be known with       >> certainty.” My comment: Consequentialism, the refuge of the ethically       >> inert: “It’s a bad decision because it might not work.”       >> Mutcherson concludes by calling the situation “dystopian”—there’s       “The       >> Handmaiden’s Tale” mentality again. She can see no benefit or reason to       >> try to save a human life. Bias has not only rendered her stupid, but so       >> morally and ethically blind she can’t see the other side of a genuine       >> ethics conflict.       >       > "It's written that GOD punished David&Bathsheba w/ a full-term       > abortion for their adultery. Thus, abortion reminds us that the       > adultery of http://AntiChrist45.com (#TrumpIsTheAntiChrist) is the sin       > to stop..."       >       > Source:              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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