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|    Michael Ejercito to HeartDoc Andrew    |
|    Re: (Kimberly) Praying w/ Michael Ejerci    |
|    28 May 25 14:19:34    |
      XPost: sci.med.cardiology, soc.culture.usa, soc.culture.israel       XPost: talk.abortion, alt.christnet.christianlife       From: MEjercit@HotMail.com              HeartDoc Andrew wrote:       > Michael Ejercito wrote:       >> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:       >>> Michael Ejercito wrote:       >>>       >>>> https://ethicsalarms.com/2025/05/28/re-abortion-another-bia       -makes-you-stupid-op-ed-in-the-nyt/       >>>>       >>>> Re Abortion: Another “Bias Makes You Stupid” Op-Ed in the NYT       >>>> May 28, 2025 / Jack Marshall       >>>>       >>>>       >>>> It’s kind of funny when headline writers are so clueless and biased that       >>>> what they think is a “res ipsa loquitur” story proving one thing       >>>> actually reveals something completely different.       >>>>       >>>> The headline on a Times op-ed ed last week was “A Brain-Dead Woman Is       >>>> Being Kept on Machines to Gestate a Fetus. It Was Inevitable.” (I’m       >>>> using my last gift link of the month on this one, so you’d better read       >>>> it!) The writer was Kimberly Mutcherson, a professor at Rutgers Law       School.       >>>>       >>>> The entire piece radiates contempt for the concept of treating the       >>>> unborn as human lives, which, you know, they are and rather undeniably       >>>> so. Readers are informed that Adriana Smith is brain dead, and has been       >>>> connected to life support machines for more than 90 days to save the       >>>> life of her baby. Smith was nine weeks pregnant when she died from       >>>> multiple blood clots in her brain.       >>>>       >>>> “Her fetus’s heart continued to beat,” writes the professor, as if       it       >>>> was an abandoned car with a functioning carburetor. Georgia, she       >>>> explains, is one of those crazy, fetus-worshiping states where a nascent       >>>> human being is deemed a human life that can’t be snuffed out on a whim       >>>> if it has a heartbeat. This, to the op-ed’s author, the headline writer       >>>> and the New York Times is completely unfathomable.       >>>>       >>>>       >>>> “Legislators did not seem to have considered a situation in which a       >>>> pregnant woman is legally dead,” she sneers. Funny, I don’t see why       the       >>>> death of the mother compels the decision that the child she is carrying       >>>> should be considered a non-person and a life not worth saving. The       >>>> professor quotes the dead woman’s mother as saying, “We want the baby.       >>>> That’s a part of my daughter. But the decision should have been left to       >>>> us — not the state.” Wait: don’t we all believe that it is a proper       >>>> function of the state to protect the lives of human beings and to pass       >>>> laws that embody that duty? Do families have the option of letting the       >>>> children of parents who are killed die from neglect because it’s the       >>>> family’s “choice”?       >>>>       >>>>       >>>> What is stunning (depressing, annoying, telling) about Mutcherson’s       >>>> essay is that she can’t grasp why anyone would argue that a brain dead       >>>> mother should be kept alive so a vulnerable human being can become       >>>> strong enough to live a life outside her womb. Many quotes in the op-ed       >>>> make that clear, like…       >>>>       >>>> “Reproductive justice advocates have long been clear that abortion law       >>>> is never only about abortion. It is about the exercise of control over       >>>> all pregnant women, regardless of whether they plan to carry their       >>>> pregnancies to term. That’s why the anti-abortion movement has pursued a       >>>> broad agenda of legal personhood for embryos and fetuses.” My comment:       >>>> “The Horror”! These misguided people think that a human being’s life       >>>> should be saved if at all possible. The monsters! This is the “It       isn’t       >>>> what it is,” “Handmaiden’s Tale” propaganda of the political       left, not       >>>> objective analysis. Anti-abortion advocates think that living human       >>>> beings shouldn’t be killed, that’s all. The position has nothing to do       >>>> with “controlling” the people who want to kill them any more than laws       >>>> against murder are “about the exercise of control” over citizens who       >>>> would like to kill someone.       >>>> “This kind of catastrophic event was inevitable, given the expansive and       >>>> imprecise laws written by legislators who generally lack medical       >>>> expertise, and the inability of politicians to fully predict every       >>>> emergency situation.” My comment: The professor isn’t referring to the       >>>> mother’s death as the “catastrophic event,” but rather the brain       dead       >>>> woman’s body being kept functioning so her baby can be born. I can       >>>> conceive of valid arguments for why this should be considered bad policy       >>>> or a situation requiring special legislation. But what’s the       >>>> catastrophe? The author is incapable of comprehending that in a       >>>> utilitarian analysis, a Kantian analysis favoring human life, and       >>>> reciprocity principles (“If you were the fetus, what would you want the       >>>> hospital to do?”), the situation is thoroughly defensible.       >>>> “Emory University Hospital, once Ms. Smith’s place of employment,       would       >>>> not be legally allowed to remove organs from a brain-dead person without       >>>> family consent if this person hadn’t previously registered her wish to       >>>> be a donor, even if doing so could save or improve dozens of lives.       >>>> However, according to Ms. Smith’s mother, the hospital informed her       >>>> that, because of the fetus her daughter was carrying, it could not       >>>> legally withdraw the artificial means of keeping her body functioning.”       >>>> My comment: So? The professor thinks that’s an apt analogy: the dead       >>>> woman’s organs can’t be harvested without her prior consent, so they       >>>> will be allowed to die along with her. But a liver isn’t a human being.       >>>> Never mind; abortion advocates can’t concede that what is at stake in an       >>>> abortion decision is a second human life. If they do, they know what       >>>> abortion becomes.       >>>> “Knowing the tremendous work that the body of a pregnant woman must do       >>>> to sustain and nourish a pregnancy, the harm to the fetus from being       >>>> trapped inside a body without a functioning brain cannot be known with       >>>> certainty.” My comment: Consequentialism, the refuge of the ethically       >>>> inert: “It’s a bad decision because it might not work.”       >>>> Mutcherson concludes by calling the situation “dystopian”—there’s       “The       >>>> Handmaiden’s Tale” mentality again. She can see no benefit or reason       to       >>>> try to save a human life. Bias has not only rendered her stupid, but so              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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