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   Robert to Madhu   
   Re: Come as U R (1/2)   
   10 Dec 25 21:53:03   
   
   From: .robert@mu.way   
      
   On Dec 9, 2025, Madhu wrote   
   (Message-ID: ):   
      
   > * ( "Robert<_^_.robert@mu.way>")<10h7gns$ebl8$1@dont-email.me> :   
   > Wrote on Mon, 08 Dec 2025 13:42:20 -0800:   
   >   
   > [...]   
   > > He was speaking of humility of the individual to such events, and it was a   
   > > teaching on that subject of humility as taught in V11 then in V12, he also   
   > > spoke to the Pharisee that invited him of who should be invited to a feast   
   > > of   
   > > celebration so that the one who invites the guests may receive a blessing   
   > > and   
   > > be recompensed at the resurrection of the Just. Meaning of course, those   
   who   
   > > wear the robes of the Righteousness of the Heavenly Father.   
   >   
   > A few weeks ago the local church here hosted a guest pastor (an   
   > indian-origin person from sac) who was from a pentecostal organization   
   > preached a christian charter of dominion on Gen.1:28 which included the   
   > church members "knowing their place" in the hierarchy.   
      
   Interesting, my understanding on the topic of Dominion, is that Christ   
   through His Salvation for the Born Again believers, is that this is one of   
   the things His Salvation has restored to us in these present times for   
   dwelling in this present world. Along with health, etc. Which is why it is so   
   important that ones mind be renewed and their faith exercised so that it   
   grows into the knowledge of His will, and the strength to overcome evil in   
   our lives. It is, after all a reality lost when Adam subjected himself to   
   Satan. BTW, I just learned that satan is a Hebrew word, just pronounced   
   differently.   
   >   
   >   
   > > Then at verse 15 one of the ones who was listening to the discourse popped   
   > > up and said, “Blessed is he that shall eat bread in the kingdom of   
   God” V15,   
   > > then Jesus spoke to him and taught on a certain man who made a great supper   
   > > and invited many, the man being one of note. Therein he speaks of the   
   > > so-called Christian who was too busy in the affairs of this life to pay   
   > > attention to God the Father, as he should, and totally disregarded the   
   > > teaching to “look up” as our redemption drawers near, because they were   
   > > too busy with life and the things of the desire of the flesh. Thus the 50%   
   > > that are left behind during the Great Resurrection if those in Christ   
   Jesus.   
   > > Those who at the very last moment suddenly realized that they were not   
   > > operating in or with the power of the Holy Spirit and were all flummoxed of   
   > > how to receive Him and dwell in the power since they were so earthbound   
   with   
   > > hardened hearts that it was difficult to break out of that shell. They   
   > > realized this a moment too late, and were not counted worthy to escape the   
   > > destruction that was soon to come, yet they pounded on the door of God,   
   > > crying out to “let me in”. But the door was shut.   
   >   
   > It is likely the parable of the wedding guest was repeated on many   
   > occassions and the record in Matthew may have been from a different   
   > context.   
      
   There may be differences of what they say, given the nature of eyewitnesses   
   and therefore subject to what was of import to them. But in the case of Luke,   
   the context of it does not bear that out to me, and because of the way the   
   chapter started off it might have implanted the feast and wedding feast   
   ideation. Jesus spoke to three separate people in that chapter.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > [...]   
   > > > In my case I cannot intepret the parables that use money and banking to   
   > > > convey a message as anything but satitical! Lazarus and Dives is satire   
   > > > on the the high priest family of Annas (the five brothers-in-law of   
   > > > Caiaphas, all saduccess).   
   >   
   > > I never heard of any parable of Lazarus and Dives. I could not find any   
   > > reference to “dives” in the NT either. So I did an online search using   
   > > that phrase and up popped the monkey, WIKI. ;) It referenced Luke 16. Is   
   > > that   
   > > what you are speaking of? If so then what tie in does the parable of the   
   > > dishonest Manager have to due with Lazarus and the rich man?   
   >   
   > I think Dives = fancy word for the Rich Man. The dishonest Steward I   
   > have to gloss over as a banking parable, as it stands.   
      
   It is a good idea when you read these things that the focus is not entirely   
   on the things of this earth, but the payoffs for doing what is right, proper,   
   and wise for ones heavenly rewards. Anyone who does these things seeking a   
   payoff reward in this life is obviously focused on money as their idol, and   
   not God. To recognize that they maybe a reward for doing what is right and   
   proper in this life with the purposes of using those monies to increase ones   
   ability to witness and produce more fruit for the Lord, then to them the   
   focus is on the Lord and not the funds. Satan does his best to sidetrack and   
   distort the issue and some fall prey to that. The odd thing is that those who   
   seek poverty to be ‘rightesous’ are just as focused on money or mammon as   
   the rich. It is just as much a false focus as seeking great wealth but it is   
   also an excuse for doing less and garnering sympathies. We are to do our best   
   in everything as unto the Lord. Let Him determine the path and the outcome.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > [...]   
   > > V 13 is the summation of the parable of the the dishonest manager and was a   
   > > the clarity also of the fact that one cannot serve the flesh and God, ie as   
   > > walking in the flesh or walking in the Spirit.   
   > > You are correct in that the definition of the clothing was not spoken of at   
   > > that time, and after all it is a parable of a future event. However, we,   
   who   
   > > have all come to the Father God through Jesus the Christ since his   
   > > resurrection are given the understanding of being clothed in the   
   > > Righteousness of the Heavenly Father. Clothed with a white raiment, made   
   > > white as we have been washed in the Blood of Jesus. Rev 3:5 as well as   
   > > described frequently throughout the NT.   
   > > >   
   > > > He's speechless because he think of the justification for the   
   > > > question. If He was some poor unworthy who was picked up, without   
   > > > clothes or any merit, and asked to come, and came as he was, and then   
   > > > the King asks him that question, he would be speechless. This is how I   
   > > > read it the first time I read it.   
   > >   
   > > I have come to realize, recently, that the scripture regarding his   
   > > speechlessness, what that he was made speechless. Which is what that word   
   > > ’speechless’ described in the original language. Now it could be that   
   he   
   > > was made speechless as he understanding was made clear to him that he was   
   > > walking in his own righteousness, as he was totally lacking the   
   > > righteousness   
   > > of God which is a gift of God to those that believe and operate in   
   >   
   > [...]   
   > > > Or, .... God forbid ... it may confirm some calvinistic double   
      
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