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|    Re: What did Jesus emphasize.?    |
|    26 Sep 25 06:18:04    |
      XPost: alt.religion.christian, alt.christnet.christianlife, alt.       hristnet.christnews       XPost: alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox, alt.religion.christ       an.roman-catholic       From: usenet@christrose.news              Signs and wonders have already confirmed Jesus is the Son of God (John       20:31) and the truth of the gospel message (Hebrews 2:3-4). We are now       expected to believe on the basis of what the Bible says about Jesus, not       on the basis of signs and wonders. Jesus emphasized this:              “But he answered them, “An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a       sign, but no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet       Jonah.” (Matthew 12:39, ESV)              “An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign, but no sign will be       given to it except the sign of Jonah.” So he left them and departed.”       (Matthew 16:4, ESV)              “When the crowds were increasing, he began to say, “This generation is       an evil generation. It seeks for a sign, but no sign will be given to it       except the sign of Jonah.” (Luke 11:29, ESV)              “how will we escape if we neglect so great a salvation? That salvation,       first spoken by the Lord, was confirmed to us by those who heard, God       also testifying with them, both by signs and wonders and by various       miracles and by gifts of the Holy Spirit according to His own will.”       (Hebrews 2:3–4, LSB)              Cessation of the sign gifts is real. However, this is not due to       unbelief. Righteous faith can only come by hearing what the Bible       teaches (Romans 10:17), not by putting faith in what it does not teach.       The Bible clearly said sign gifts like tongues would "cease" of themselves:               “Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for        tongues, THEY WILL CEASE; as for knowledge, it will pass away.        For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when the        perfect comes, the partial will pass away. When I was a child, I        spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a        child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways. For now we        see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in        part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.”        (1 Corinthians 13:8–12, ESV, emphasis added)               • The phrase "will cease" is in the middle voice. The middle        voice shows that the subject is acting on itself. This means        tongues are not made to cease by the coming of "the perfect".        They have a built-in cessation.               • By contrast, it says prophecy and knowledge will "pass away".        This is in the passive voice. It means prophecy and knowledge        will be made to cease by the coming of "the perfect".               • If you understand "the perfect" to mean the coming of Christ,        then the only Spiritual gifts which the Bible indicates will be        made to cease by the arrival of Christ, are prophecy and        knowledge.              Conclusion: There is not a shred of evidence in the Bible which       necessitates that any of the sign gifts must continue until the arrival       of Christ. Tongues are specifically said to cease of themselves and not       to be made to cease by the arrival of that which is perfect.                     --       Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (†), and God       raised Him from the dead?              That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death       penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death       satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John       2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your       sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.              On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on       the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name       of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).              https://christrose.news/salvation              To automatically receive daily Bible teaching updates with colorful       images and website formatting, subscribe to my feed in a client like       Thunderbird:              https://www.christrose.news/feeds/posts/default              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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