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   Message 94,176 of 96,161   
   Christ Rose to James   
   Re: Evolution and the human body. (1/2)   
   26 Sep 25 10:07:34   
   
   XPost: alt.christnet.christnews, alt.religion.christian   
   From: usenet@christrose.news   
      
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   Fri, 26 Sep 2025 09:46:55 -0400   
      
   "Sincerely", "soley from the Bible" and   
   "Honestly is my middle name"   
   James  wrote:   
   ========================================   
   > On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 11:31:44 -0500, Christ Rose   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >> ========================================   
   >> Sat, 13 Sep 2025 10:30:30 -0400   
   >> <79nackdceqr2luce71f5njfesfbsmck706@4ax.com>   
   >> "Sincerely", "soley from the Bible" and   
   >> "Honestly is my middle name"   
   >> James  wrote:   
   >> ========================================   
   >>> Microevolution happens all the time. those things are preprogrammed in   
   >>> their bodies. Put a dog in the North Pole, and he will grow a thicker   
   >>> coat, etc., and he is still a dog.   
   >>>   
   >>> It is MACROEVOLUTION which is the false science. Like a whale   
   >>> eventually coming from a one-celled life form. Mankind coming from   
   >>> apes, etc.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Romans 1 and Psalm 19 say that God's eternal power is evident in what He   
   >> has created, so that pagans are "without excuse". They have already   
   >> received sufficient evidence of God in creation. When they suppress this   
   >> self-evident knowledge of God, God hands them over to their own corrupt   
   >> way of thinking, and they become reprobate. Trying to reason with   
   >> reprobates from creation is futile, because they've already suppressed   
   >> and rejected this knowledge, and God has handed them over to their "No   
   >> God!" mentality. So all these "Christians" in here try to reason with   
   >> pagans from the creation which they have already rejected the knowledge   
   >> of, are wasting their time and inviting and propagating the false   
   >> doctrines of the reprobates which they spew whenever you do this.   
   >   
   > Yet the Bible says to preach to everyone, including pagans, and   
   > fornicators, and thieves, and murderers, etc, etc.   
      
      
   Which is what you now pretend I did not already say below. And you   
   preach the gospel, not creation. Read Paul's dialogue in Acts 17. He   
   spends about 30 seconds talking about the God of creation, then   
   transitions to the gospel. You're not even including the gospel, and   
   you're not going to reason them into salvation by arguing the creation   
   they've already rejected the knowledge of. Even those who believe God   
   created the universe are not saved by that knowledge.   
      
      
   >> Meanwhile the gospel is the power of God unto salvation (Romans 1:16-17;   
   >> 10:17; 1 Corinthians 15:1-4). It is only through hearing the   
   >> proclamation of Christ's death and resurrections as a substitutionary   
   >> atonement for our sins, that God will grant these people repentance and   
   >> saving faith. Unfortunately, "Jehovah's Witnesses" preach a false gospel   
   >> which denies Christ is YHWH, and seeks to make Him "a god" who can't   
   >> save anyone.   
   >   
   > Jesus disagrees with you:   
      
   Stupid liar.   
      
   > -- New King James   
   > John 14:28  "You have heard Me say to you, `I am going away and coming   
   > back to you.' If you loved Me, you would rejoice because I said, `I am   
   > going to the Father,' for My Father is greater than I.   
      
      
   You seek to confuse role with essence, like the stupid, satanically   
   manipulated liar you are. For example, men and women are equal as   
   children of God (). Wives are co-heirs of the grace of God (). They are   
   the same in essence, and different only in role and function. So it is   
   not because the wife is an inferior being or of a lesser essence that   
   she submits to the husband, but to promote order in role and function.   
      
   But you already knew that. You've been told this a dozen times or more   
   already. You just seem to think that if you wait a few weeks you can   
   come back and brain-wash people by repeating the same dumb, refuted,   
   satanically manipulated lies over and over again like the brain-washing   
   "JW's" you represent.   
      
      
   > -- New King James   
   > John 10:36  "do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent   
   > into the world, `You are blaspheming,' because I said, `I am the Son   
   > of God'?   
      
      
   Stupid, satanically manipulated liar.   
      
   That doesn't refute the fact that Jesus is God. In fact, it's exactly   
   why the Jews correctly understood Jesus was making Himself equal with God.   
      
         “This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him,   
          because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even   
          calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.”   
          (John 5:18, ESV)   
      
   You may delude yourself with the notion that quoting a verse that says   
   Jesus is the Son of God proves He's not God, but not others.   
      
      
   > - New King James   
   > John 14:6  Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life.   
   > No one comes to the Father except through Me.   
      
      
   As if the fact Jesus is the only way to the Father somehow proves He's   
   not God. Twisted, satanically manipulated liar. No explanation is even   
   necessary.   
      
      
   > Even the Devil is called a "god" (2 Cor 4:4), so how much more so   
   > would Jesus be a "god".   
      
      
   John doesn't say Jesus was "a god". No passage of Scripture says Jesus   
   was "a god". That's where the satanically manipulated liars who slopped   
   together the NWT mistranslation had to insert words that weren't there.   
   And no, no legitimate translation supplies words which change the   
   meaning of a passage theologically to the opposite of what it plainly   
   says in the original.   
      
      
   >> So they will die in their sins and bring others with them   
   >> into the eternal, conscious torment which they feign to wish people   
   >> saved from (John 8).   
   >   
   > Sadism has no place in the Bible. Nobody loves a torturer, esp one   
   > with fire. You should be cleaning God's name instead of corrupting it   
   > with obscenities!   
      
      
   Satanically manipulated liar. Eternal, conscious condemnation is what   
   the lost DESERVE on their merits. Anyone who goes to hell for rejecting   
   God's love, mercy, and grace in Christ is getting JUSTICE, not "Sadism".   
   You LIE about God you satanically manipulated tool of your father the devil.   
      
      
   >> Anyone who is truly concerned about the lost and promoting the truth   
   >> about creation, will invest their time in proclaiming the saving gospel   
   >> of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, not the science and   
   >> creation which the reprobates have already rejected and which can't save   
   >> them anyway.   
   >   
   > People can come to their senses and repent. Don't deny them that   
   > opportunity.   
      
      
   See Acts 17, you stupid satanic liar. You don't promote the saving   
      
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