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   Fri, 26 Sep 2025 11:12:32 -0700   
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   "Robert" (a.k.a "None", "Dr. Who",   
   "Anonymous", "HTH", "ahisrwic", "Rock", "KK") wrote:   
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   > Mat 11:2 Now when John had heard in the prison the works of Christ, he sent   
   > two of his disciples,   
   >   
   > Mat 11:3 And said unto him, Art thou he that should come, or do we look for   
   > another?   
   >   
   > Mat 11:4 Jesus answered and said unto them, Go and shew John again those   
   > things which ye do hear and see:   
   >   
   > Mat 11:5 The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are   
   > cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the   
   > gospel preached to them.   
   >   
   > Mat 11:6 And blessed is he,whosoever shall not be offended in me.   
      
      
   You promote confusion.   
      
   1. John didn't ask Jesus, "Hey, what's the gospel?". He asked Him   
       whether He was the one to come [Messiah], or whether they should   
       look for another. Jesus' response then, was to validate Himself as   
       the Messiah, by showing He fulfilled the Old Testament prophecies   
       about Messiah in Isaiah 35:5-6 and 61:1.   
      
   2. Meanwhile, the saving gospel for the church era is clearly stated in   
       1 Corinthians 15:1-4:   
      
         “Now I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to   
          you, which you received, in which you stand, and by which you   
          are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to   
          you—unless you believed in vain. For I delivered to you as of   
          first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our   
          sins in accordance with the Scriptures, that he was buried, that   
          he was raised on the third day in accordance with the   
          Scriptures, and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve.”   
          (1 Corinthians 15:1–5, ESV)   
      
   Do you see anything in there about Jesus healing people of physical   
   illnesses? No you don't. The saving gospel is that Christ died for our   
   sins was buried, and rose again. If you believe that, you're saved. The   
   gospel is NOT that if you're truly a believer you'll believe in and   
   receive physical healings.   
      
   Thus you try to poison people's minds against the true, saving gospel in   
   here, to promote Charismatic lies.   
      
      
   > This is a total and complete picture of Works, and the works of Faith, not of   
   > men.   
      
      
   Again you promote confusion and carnal lies. The works that characterize   
   a believer are clearly declared here:   
      
         “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience,   
          kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control;   
          against such things there is no law.” (Galatians 5:22–23, ESV)   
      
   1 John tells us how to discern the spirits, as to who is from God and   
   who is from the devil. There's not a single mention in any of those   
   instructions about making sure people believe in physical healings or   
   speaking in tongues, etc. It's all about the fruit of love (1 John   
   4:7-8), right living (1 John 3:7-10), a testimony of faith in Christ (1   
   John 4:2-3), not loving the world (1 John 2:15-17), etc. There isn't   
   even a hint in 1 John, that the way to see who is a child of God or a   
   child of the devil is actually to test whether they believe in Physical   
   healings. Thus you promote confusion and lies.   
      
      
   > Any who seek to deny any portion of these attributes preaches another Gospel.   
      
      
   Says who? Paul said anyone who preaches justification through any other   
   means than faith in Christ is preaching another gospel (Galatians   
   1:8-9). You're the one trying to claim a gospel of physical healing as   
   if it were the saving gospel. You're the one promoting a false, damnable   
   gospel!   
      
      
   > When those that follow Christ in this present day, the past and the future   
   > until the end of this age, adhere to the Full Gospel of Christ Jesus and are   
   > not offended by any of the present day works of God through them.   
   >   
   > There are many false Christs, be wary of them.   
      
      
   There are many false healers and prosperity gospel liars promoting   
   gospel confusion. Charismatics like "Robert" do exactly that. You never   
   see Him telling people about the gospel as mentioned in 1 Corinthians   
   15:1-4. He always ends up trying to make it about malcontented, carnal,   
   Charismatic falsehoods and a false prosperity gospel. Jesus rebuked the   
   evil Charismatic generation liars:   
      
         “But he answered them, “An evil and adulterous generation seeks   
          for a sign, but no sign will be given to it except the sign of   
          the prophet Jonah.” (Matthew 12:39, ESV)   
      
         “An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign, but no sign   
          will be given to it except the sign of Jonah.” So he left them   
          and departed.” (Matthew 16:4, ESV)   
      
         “When the crowds were increasing, he began to say, “This   
          generation is an evil generation. It seeks for a sign, but no   
          sign will be given to it except the sign of Jonah.” (Luke 11:29,   
          ESV)   
      
         “And he sighed deeply in his spirit and said, “Why does this   
          generation seek a sign? Truly, I say to you, no sign will be   
          given to this generation.”” (Mark 8:12, ESV)   
      
   Jesus flatly exposed Charismatics like you as an evil generation for   
   seeking after signs. Yet you not only claim it yourself but try to get   
   others to become an evil and adulterous generation with you!   
      
   Don't be deceived by this gospel opposing troll, Charismatic. Love, not   
   physical healing and prosperity is the main evidence of the Spirit's   
   work in the life of a believer. Here are 15 Bible evidences that the   
   sign gifts ceased during the lifetime of the apostles:   
      
   https://christrose.news/ceased   
      
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   Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (†), and God   
   raised Him from the dead?   
      
   That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death   
   penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death   
   satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John   
   2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your   
   sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.   
      
   On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on   
   the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name   
   of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).   
      
   https://christrose.news/salvation   
      
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