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|    Re: Tithing. Compulsory? (2/3)    |
|    26 Sep 25 12:25:16    |
      [continued from previous message]              deny all of it, knowingly, and repost your mantra that contains a sliver of       the truth and present it as the whole truth thus intentionally deceiving       others as well as you were given to “believe a Lie”.              And I am speaking here not of the spiritual understandings, but the literal       understandings of the languages involved which anyone who had any depth of       language would realize that you intentionally and purposely ignore the full       truth in order to create a narrative that justifies your sins. Just like so       many powerful and influential Democrats do for the last 20 years, along with       their cohorts.       >       > If you want liars, look at many Bible translators. They make God out       > to be a liar. They have removed the Tetragrammaton in its almost 7000       > times. That's around 7000 errors before you even turn the first page.              I have shown you several times that the basis of that argument is flawed,       totally flawed, yet you persist in your mantra which even the NWT and the JW       have also erred according to your precept here.              Why do I say this? Again. 300 years before Christ the Jewish priests       translated the OT into Greek. The same Greek language as was spoken in the       days of Jesus, and the NT. So they, having full familiarity of both languages       of that day would know best what was the proper Greek words and which were       not.              You were also given the reasons as to why the Greek Language translation was       needed then.              Now, on a personal note, I have stated fro decades that the original Hebrew       was best, and especially the Hebrew texts older than 300 BC As it defined       things with far better specificity, not only in regards to all the Names of       the most High God, but also as to what sin is, again with specificity. Which       adds greatly to the understanding ob men.              Sadly you understand none of that.              >       >       > > >       > > >       > > > >       > > > > This is what Yehovah spoke yet you say he does not do such things.       Notice       > > > > his promises to those that do his will. Then notice the similarity in       the       > > > > NT       > > > > Below.       > > > >       > > > > >       > > > > >       > > > > > Notice Deut 14:22:       > > > > >       > > > > > - New Living Translation       > > > > > Deuteronomy 14:22 "You must set aside a tithe of your crops-one-tenth       > > > > > of all the crops you harvest each year.       > > > > >       > > > > > But are the churches right. Must we at least give 10% of our income       to       > > > > > the church? They wish so. But see for yourself.       > > > > >       > > > > > -- New King James       > > > > > 2 Corinthians 9:7 So let each one give as he purposes in his heart,       > > > > > not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver.       > > > > >       > > > > > Yes, the Mosaic Laws were done away with at Christ's death. We are no       > > > > > longer under the 10% rule. Any church that says we must contribute at       > > > > > least 10%, is misleading their flock.       > > > >       > > > > “But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly;       > > > > and       > > > > he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully. Every man       > > > > according       > > > > as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of       > > > > necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver. And God is able to make all       > > > > grace       > > > > abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all       things,       > > > > may       > > > > abound to every good work: (As it is written, He hath dispersed       abroad; he       > > > > hath given to the poor: his righteousness remaineth for ever. Now he       that       > > > > ministereth seed to the sower both minister bread for your food, and       > > > > multiply       > > > > your seed sown, and increase the fruits of your righteousness;) Being       > > > > enriched in every thing to all bountifulness, which causeth through us       > > > > thanksgiving to God. For the administration of this service not only       > > > > supplieth the want of the saints, but is abundant also by many       > > > > thanksgivings       > > > > unto God;” (2Co 9:6-12)       > > >       > > > Yep, good Scripture.       > >       > > All scripture is good and serves the purposes of God for our benefits,       > > including the warnings of an eternity of torment for the wicked. And this       > > speaks of how a believer lives, and their rewards both in this life and the       > > next.       >       > Love does NOT torture anyone or anything. And God IS love. (1 John       > 4:8)              Deu 12:31Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thyGod: for every abomination to       the LORD, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their       sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods.              Deu 16:22Neither shalt thou set thee up any image; which the LORD thy God       hateth.              Amo 6:8The Lord GOD hath sworn by himself, saith the LORD the God of hosts, I       abhor the excellency of Jacob, and hate his palaces: therefore will I deliver       up the city with all that is therein.              Mal 2:16For the LORD, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away:       for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the LORD of hosts:       therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously.              Rom 12:9Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave       to that which is good.              Rom 13:4For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that       which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the       minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.              I heartily recommend that you get to know God and dwell not in half truths       and false dogmas, thus deceiving yourselves and end up in the pit and from       their to the Judgment seat of God/Jesus, and from their into the eternal lake       of Fire and great torment everlasting.              >       > >       > > Why is this not a focal point in your life? You miss out because you       believe       > > not. This speaks of supporting those that lead you and minister unto you in       > > the things of the Lord Jesus Christ. For these things are of God. They       bring       > > Joy to the hearts of the Born Again Believer.       > > >       > > >       > > > >       > > > > A person that returns unto God what was His in the first place which He       > > > > gave       > > > > to you for your daily needs. Notice. Those that withhold and sows       > > > > sparingly       > > > > reaps sparingly. He also loves a cheerful give with offerings also.       > > > > uncheerful givers might as well keep their monies.       > > >       > > > What are you talking about. I thought I made it clear. You don't HAVE       > > > TO give 10%. I give what is in my heart so as to be a "cheerful       > > > giver". Just like Paul wrote.       > >       > > I am talking about understanding the will of God, I knew some people who       > > gave       > > 90% of their earnings to God. There is no limitations, and those that sow       > > sparingly will reap in like manner. That is why so many remain poor, poor       in       > > wealth, in spirit an in the blessings of God.       >       > The Bible says to give willingly, with what is in your heart.              As to offerings, for sure. If you chose to tithe, then that is 10% by       definition.       Did you even comprehend what you replied too?              >       >       > > >       > > >       > > > >       > > > > Of course this teaching is for true believers in Jesus, Yet God       promises       > > > > rewards in this life for anyone who is charitable with the poor and       needy       > > > > for       > > > > they are doing the work of God, and So God rewards them in this life,       and       > > > > it       > > > > has no effect on the after life as they are not his children.       > > >       > > > A person cannot buy his way to God. You give what you can, like the       > > > widow who contributed just pennies, but Jesus praised her for giving       > > > all she had.       > >              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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