XPost: alt.religion.christian   
   From: none@none.non   
      
   On Sep 27, 2025, James wrote   
   (Message-ID:):   
      
   > The 10 commandments. Still valid?   
   >   
   > Some say the 10 commandments are still in operation today. And that   
   > Christians are obligated to follow them. Well? From the KJV, Ex 20   
   > here they are:   
   >   
   > 1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. (Vs 3)   
   > 2. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain. (Vs 7)   
   > 3. The seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God. (Vs 10)   
   > 4 . Honour thy father and thy mother. (Vs 12)   
   > 5. Thou shalt not kill. (Vs 13)   
   > 6. Thou shalt not commit adultery. (Vs 14)   
   > 7. Thou shalt not steal. (Vs 15)   
   > 8. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. (Vs 16)   
   > 9. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house. (Vs 17)   
   > 10 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife. (Vs17)   
   >   
   > Paul clearly said that the Mosaic Laws were fulfilled by Jesus' death:   
   > Col 2:14   
   >   
   > "having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was   
   > against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it   
   > to the cross." (NIV)   
      
   Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us,   
   which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his   
   cross;   
      
   Col 2:14 He has blotted out the note of debt against us with the decrees of   
   our sins, which was contrary to us; and He has taken it away, having nailed   
   it to the cross.   
      
   Those ordinances were for the Israelites. Are you a Jew? Or a gentile?   
      
   Rom 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the   
   things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto   
   themselves:   
      
   The Law covenant was not what was nailed to the cross, but the debts of those   
   who broke the law. IOW, Sin   
      
   >   
   > (Galatians 3:13) Christ purchased us, releasing us from the curse of   
   > the Law by becoming a curse instead of us, because it is written:   
   > “Accursed is every man hung upon a stake.” (NWT)   
      
   Gal 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a   
   curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:   
      
   2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we   
   might be made the righteousness of God in him.   
      
   Christ, was nailed to the Cross. Not the Law, nor the Law Covenant. Christ   
   who was made sin. The totality of all the sin of mankind. Christ, the Lamb of   
   God, sacrificed for sin.   
      
   >   
   > (Hebrews 9:15) That is why he is a mediator of a new covenant, in   
   > order that because a death has occurred for their release by ransom   
   > from the transgressions under the former covenant, those who have been   
   > called may receive the promise of the everlasting inheritance. (NWT)   
      
   Heb 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by   
   means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the   
   first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal   
   inheritance.   
      
   This confirms the scripture I posted above. The truth of God.   
      
   >   
   > (1 Peter 2:24) He himself bore our sins in his own body on the stake,   
   > so that we might die to sins and live to righteousness. And “by his   
   > wounds you were healed.” (NWT)   
      
   1Pe 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we,   
   being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were   
   healed.   
      
   Just below is the prophecy of this event, which disproves the wording of the   
   NWT and supports the wording of a proper translation. Which also totally   
   destroys the false teachings of many religions, who associate healing as   
   purely spiritual healing.   
      
   Isa 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our   
   iniquities: the chastisement of our peacewas upon him; and with his stripes   
   we are healed.   
      
   Isa 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his   
   own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.   
      
   V6 also speaks of of Jesus being made sin for mankind. Do you really think   
   that a being who was just a man could bear all the sins of mankind throughout   
   history without disintegrating before your eyes?   
      
   >   
   >   
   > We can be glad the Mosaic Laws were done away with, for breaking a   
   > commandment could cost you your life.   
      
   One sin, no matter how slight makes you a sinner. Yes, even what you think of   
   as a little white lie. Without the redemptive work of God present in your   
   life, one is indeed doomed to eternal torment. Which is why Christ came to   
   save us from our sins, and once a person has accepted his work, as God, and   
   ask for and received redemption, and walks in the spirit, the redemptive work   
   of God is a constantly ongoing work to wash that mans sins away throughout   
   their normal life on this planet.   
   >   
   > For example, working on the Sabbath was a death penalty.   
      
   That is a lie. A Pharisaic lie.   
      
   Mat 12:1 At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his   
   disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat.   
      
   Mat 12:2 But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy   
   disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day.   
      
   Mat 12:3 But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was   
   an hungred, and they that were with him;   
      
   Mat 12:4 How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread,   
   which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him,   
   but only for the priests?   
      
   Mat 12:5 Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the   
   priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?   
      
   Mat 12:6 But I say unto you, That in this place is onegreater than the   
   temple.   
      
   Mat 12:7 But if ye had known what thismeaneth, I will have mercy, and not   
   sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.   
      
   Mat 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.   
      
   Lest you forget, Jesus fulfilled ALL the Law.   
      
   >   
   > So if they were ended, that means we can now go and steal whatever we   
   > want, etc? (7th commandment)   
   >   
   > No. Many of them have been copied into the NT. Like the 7th   
   > commandment above, we still cannot steal:   
   >   
   > --King James   
   > Ephesians 4:28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him   
   > labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may   
   > have to give to him that needeth.   
      
   You posted no commandment. Where is the ordinance of it? An ordinance or Law   
   has a judgment attached to it. Where is it? What is the punishment?   
      
   Rom 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we   
   were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness   
   of the letter.   
      
   Gal 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by   
   the law, then Christ is dead in vain.   
      
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