XPost: alt.religion.christian
From: .robert@mu.way
On Sep 28, 2025, James wrote
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> - New King James
> John 13:35 "By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you
> have love for one another.''
Jhn 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I
have loved you, that ye also love one another.
Jhn 13:35 By this shall all menknow that ye are my disciples, if ye have love
one to another.
>
> That is a characteristic of true disciples of Jesus. Although they are
> imperfect, they know they must love each other.
1Jn 3:18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but
in deed and in truth.
Actions speak louder than words.
2Co 6:6 By pureness, by knowledge, by longsuffering, by kindness, by the Holy
Ghost, by love unfeigned,
I highly recommend reading that chapter in full as it speaks to the fullness
of the actions of those that follow Christ Jesus.
>
> But what about war? Those who join to serve their country, have a
> dilemma. They may kill or injure a member of their own religion. For
> example:
Religion? You mean like Hindu’s warring against Buddhists? Or the Muslim
factions that war against each other for centuries? Why is religion so
important? Why is it so key to your cult?
Have not the angelic hosts fought and warred against each other?
Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against
the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
What about the wars fought in the desert within the first 40 years as nations
nations came against Israel? God supported the Israelites.
What about Gods orders to prepare for war and make instruments for war?
Jol 3:9 Proclaim ye this among the Gentiles; Prepare war, wake up the mighty
men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up:
Jol 3:10 Beat your plowshares into swords, and your pruninghooks into spears:
let the weak say, I am strong.
Jol 3:11 Assemble yourselves, and come, all ye heathen, and gather yourselves
together round about: thither cause thy mighty ones to come down, O LORD.
Jol 3:12 Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to the valley of
Jehoshaphat: for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about.
Jol 3:13 Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down;
for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great.
Jol 3:14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the
LORD is near in the valley of decision.
Jol 3:15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw
their shining.
Jol 3:16 The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from
Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the LORD will be
the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel.
While these are the words of the Prophet Joel, this speaks about the time to
come wherein there will be two mighty world wars, both in the battles of
Armageddon. One at the beginning of the millennial Kingdom of Jesus to
deliver the Israelites, the other at the end of the millennial kingdom
wherein Satan is released from the pit of hell an gathers up many men around
the world in his last ditch effort to War against Israel, and their ruler,
Jesus. Both times millions of men will be killed.
While war is not what God instigates, it is not something he shy’s away
from either.
The wars of religious men against other men is not sanctioned by God for that
is not Gods desire and it stems from an evil heart, like those religious wars
of the RCC against all others, “For though we walk in the flesh, we do not
war after the flesh: (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but
mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;) Casting down
imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge
of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of
Christ;” (2Co 10:3-5)
>
> During WWII, American Catholics killed German Catholics on the battle
> field, and American Baptists killed German Baptists, etc. Did they
> have love for each other? No. They had HATE for one another. Enough
> hatred to kill them.
When a person kills another to rescue those who seek to murder, rape, etc
other people, who says they do it out of hatred and because they harbor
hatred in their hearts? Are the Police walking haters? Are the armies just
chock full of haters? Prejudicial haters of others? Do executioners have to
harbor a hatred of others in order to meet the job requirements of the
position? Or are they the ones who dispense judgments according to law?
>
> But if you found out that the enemy was not of your religion?
Believers follow Christ and as such are disciples of Him, not followers of
some religion. For we are one body, the body of Christ Jesus.
>
> The Bible says to even "love your neighbor". (Mark 12:31)
> Thus the true religion is commanded NOT to go to war, for they are
> also commanded to "love your enemy". (Mt 5:44)
And for that reason we treat prisoners of war respectfully and honorably.
When we go to war, physical war it is not with hugs and kisses, for that is
not Love. That would be feigned love as we know that there are people banded
together to destroy others and have shown it by their actions long before an
actual war breaks out. During the prelude to a war, it is tried by honorable
people to disarm the warring minds ahead of time through talks, agreements an
so forth. But there are times when nations shall rise up agains nations
simply because they want to enslave others and take the good that they have
for their own personal pleasures. Then also, some are just pure evil in their
hearts and are known to be destroyers. Even peoples of great wealth like the
Soros family who love to stir up unrest in nations around the world for
personal pleasure and feeling as if they are gods who rule others with power.
>
> So, look for a religion that meets all those criteria. And if you
> found one, you have found the true "one faith" religion. (Eph 4:5)
Here is the context in which v 5 is encapsulated.
V3 speaks of “endeavoring” to keep peace. V4 speaks of “one body” not
various religions, or considering an arm of the body a self sufficient whole
entity. V5 speaks not of religion but of One God, One gift of Faith, the
ability to believe and have confidence in God and His words, His gifts, His
Love. And one baptism, and that baptism is not one of water, it is the one
that John the Baptist foretold of in these verses.
Mat 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh
after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall
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