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   Message 94,237 of 96,161   
   None to James   
   Re: An AI's response to what a Bible "so   
   29 Sep 25 17:03:37   
   
   XPost: alt.religion.christian   
   From: none@none.non   
      
   On Sep 29, 2025, James wrote   
   (Message-ID:<3isldk14mgs0de6fok5sfctn5pmviv5205@4ax.com>):   
      
   > On Mon, 29 Sep 2025 08:52:20 -0700, None  wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Sep 29, 2025, James wrote   
   > > (Message-ID:):   
   > >   
   > > > On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 18:33:00 -0700, None  wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > > On Sep 28, 2025, James wrote   
   > > > > (Message-ID:):   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > An AI's response to what a soul is.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Where does AI end and your comments begin?   
   > > >   
   > > > Look for the quotation marks.   
   > >   
   > > If that be the case then the only thing quoted nothing you wrote is to be   
   > > trusted here, since you used quotation marks around your question, unless   
   > > you   
   > > are an AI entity and many other quotation marks around various words.   
   >   
   > I didn't put quotation marks around my own opinion of something. Look   
   > again. I do put them around single words I want to stand out, like   
   > "soul".   
   >   
   > What the AI printed out started with the question I asked it.   
   >   
   > I also put quotation marks around words I quote from the Bible. Like   
   > part of Genesis 2:7 "the breath of life".   
   >   
   > >   
   > > So how about being more definitive?   
   > >   
   > > To me the bulk of your text was generated by the mantra of the JW’s   
   dogma.   
   >   
   > Wrong. What I said the AI said, all came from the AI. Pose my exact   
   > question on the internet and see if you get an AI. Here is the   
   > question I asked: "What does the Bible say a "soul" is? [quotations   
   > were used so that it would treat it as one sentence instead of a bunch   
   > of individual words.]   
   >   
   > But what is interesting is that you mainly are commenting on my use of   
   > quotations, rather than what it said a soul is. It fully agreed with   
   > what I have been posting. The AI checked a bunch of references, and   
   > came up with that.   
   >   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > > > What is the Greek word for soul that the Hebrews used to translate from   
   > > > > ancient Hebrew to Greek?   
   > > > Psyche.   
   > >   
   > > ????? psuche?, this is the greek word for soul translated 300 years   
   > > before Christ came to earth.   
   > > Which, BTW you misspelled throughout your post.   
   >   
   > That is the way my reference spells it.   
   > >   
   > > Are you now joining the ranks of AI Rosie to determine what the word of the   
   > > Lord means?   
   >   
   > The AI that responded to me supported everything I taught from the   
   > Bible:   
   >   
   > 1. Gen 2:7 says Adam IS a soul.   
   > 2. OT nephesh (soul) can mean LIFE or the creature itself.   
   > 3. Gen 1:20 calls fish "souls". Thus its the whole fish.   
   >   
   > -- Darby's Bible   
   > Genesis 1:20 And God said, Let the waters swarm with swarms of living   
   > souls [nephesh], and let fowl fly above the earth in the expanse of   
   > the heavens.   
   > [My brackets]   
   >   
   > 4. NT psyche (that is how AI spelled it) is about the same as the OT.   
   > It can mean LIFE or PERSON.   
   > 5. Immortal soul came from Greek psychology, namely Plato and   
   > Aristotle. Notice:   
   >   
   > Funk and Wagnall's Encyclopedia says,   
   >   
   > "Early Judaism considered the human personality as a whole, without   
   > making a sharp distinction between body and soul....The Christian   
   > doctrine of the soul has been strongly influenced by the philosophies   
   > of Plato and Aristotle."   
   >   
   > Compton's Encyclopedia (1995) states,   
   >   
   > "The long-held notions, devised by the Greeks and others, concerning   
   > man as a composite of material body and spiritual (or immortal) soul   
   > was foreign to Israel....There was no question of the body's dying and   
   > an immortal soul's going off by itself, because the individual was   
   > believed to be a unit, not a composite of body, mind, and soul."   
   >   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > From a Google search page, I asked an AI what the Bible says a "soul"   
   > > > > > is. This was its answer:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > "What does the Bible say a "soul" is?   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Thinking   
   > > > > > Kicking off 11 searches   
   > > > > > Looking at 232 sites   
   > > > > > Getting info from Shopping   
   > > > > > Shopping   
   > > > > > Putting it all together   
   > > > > > The Bible describes the "soul" (Hebrew:   
   > > > > > nephesh, Greek: psyche) as the entire living being, not a separate,   
   > > > > > immortal part of a person. The concept of a soul that is inherently   
   > > > > > immortal and survives the body's death is rooted in Greek philosophy,   
   > > > > > not biblical teaching."   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Old Testament: Nephesh (??????)   
   > > > > > In the Old Testament, the Hebrew word nephesh is frequently   
   translated   
   > > > > > as "soul" but refers to the life force or a living creature itself.   
   It   
   > > > > > describes the whole person and can also mean "life," "person," or   
   > > > > > "creature".   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > A living creature: Genesis 2:7 says that when God breathed "the   
   > > > > > breath of life" into man, "man became a living soul (nephesh)". This   
   > > > > > does not mean Adam received a soul but that he became a complete,   
   > > > > > living individual. The same term is used for animals in Genesis   
   > > > > > 1:21...   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > New Testament: Psyche (????)   
   > > > > > The New Testament uses the Greek word psyche, which carries a similar   
   > > > > > meaning to the Hebrew nephesh. While it sometimes contrasts the soul   
   > > > > > with the body, its meaning is determined by the context.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > The total person or a life: It is often used as a synonym for   
   > > > > > "life" or "person." For example, the disciples were counted as "three   
   > > > > > thousand souls" (Acts 2:41), meaning three thousand people..."   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Yes, the IMMORTAL soul comes from Greek influence of Aristotle and   
   > > > > > others.   
   >   
   > Sincerely James   
      
   Based on what you explained this is all that AI said.   
      
   *****************************   
   "What does the Bible say a "soul" is?   
      
   Thinking   
   Kicking off 11 searches   
   Looking at 232 sites   
   Getting info from Shopping   
   Shopping   
   Putting it all together   
   The Bible describes the "soul" (Hebrew:   
   nephesh, Greek: psyche) as the entire living being, not a separate,   
   immortal part of a person. The concept of a soul that is inherently   
   immortal and survives the body's death is rooted in Greek philosophy,   
   not biblical teaching."   
   ****************************   
      
   That is it. Now you are claiming the rest is also, as if AI misspelled the   
   greek word for soul.   
      
   Your words,   
   ***************************   
      
   Old Testament: Nephesh (??????)   
   In the Old Testament, the Hebrew word nephesh is frequently translated   
   as "soul" but refers to the life force or a living creature itself. It   
   describes the whole person and can also mean "life," "person," or   
   "creature".   
      
   A living creature: Genesis 2:7 says that when God breathed "the   
   breath of life" into man, "man became a living soul (nephesh)". This   
      
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