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   Message 94,261 of 96,161   
   Robert to All   
   Re: Satan has not backed off an inch, an   
   30 Sep 25 11:38:15   
   
   XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife, alt.religion.christian, alt.   
   hristnet.christnews   
   From: .robert@mu.way   
      
   On Sep 28, 2025, Christ Rose wrote   
   (Message-ID:):   
      
   > > Yet “christians†harbor the thoughts of satan teaching that the   
   > > gifts of the Holy Spirit of God, wane.   
   >   
   > Notice how he tries to associate any denial of charismatic lies with the   
   > teaching of Satan, without any evidence whatsoever. Jesus said the opposite:   
   >   
   > “An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign...”(Matthew   
   > 16:4, ESV)   
   >   
   > If anything, Satan is trying to get people to seek after signs rather   
   > than walk by faith in God's word.   
      
   I am going to present a new commandment of Jesus in order to establish a base   
   as well as the reasoning behind it, per God.   
      
   Jhn 13:34-35   
      
   34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have   
   loved you, that ye also love one another.   
      
   35 By this shall allmenknow that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to   
   another.   
      
   Here is the understanding of that, in practice.   
      
   1Jn 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the   
   devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that   
   loveth not his brother.   
      
   This is the truth of the Lord, and it is not for me to judge, let God and the   
   others judge.   
      
   Now onwards to the scripture used without understanding. As Taught by the   
   Lord.   
      
   Charismatic? Gifts of the Spirit? Those who claim that these things are of   
   the devil? Healings, Casting out demons, miracles, all done as the spirit of   
   God dispenses them severally amongst men?   
      
   Here is what Jesus said in regards to the Pharisaical ones of his day. Those   
   who claimed to follow the scriptures....   
      
   Blasphemy Against the Holy Spirit   
      
   Mat 12:22 Then was brought unto him one possessed with a devil, blind, and   
   dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw.   
      
   Mat 12:23 And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of   
   David?   
      
   Mat 12:24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not   
   cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.   
      
   Mat 12:25 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom   
   divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house   
   divided against itself shall not stand:   
      
   Mat 12:26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how   
   shall then his kingdom stand?   
      
   Mat 12:27 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children   
   cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges.   
      
   Mat 12:28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of   
   God is come unto you.   
      
   Mat 12:29 Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his   
   goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.   
      
   Mat 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not   
   with me scattereth abroad.   
      
   Mat 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be   
   forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy againstthe HolyGhost shall not be   
   forgiven unto men.   
      
   Mat 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be   
   forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be   
   forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.   
      
   Those who do such things have no fear of God within them. And do not respect   
   the word of God as given to men.   
      
   Now.... On to the subject that is in concert with all of the above. This is   
   the next point of the preaching of Jesus in this chapter. Which addresses how   
   one walks as a believer. Not “should walk” but walks.   
      
   A Tree Is Known by Its Fruit   
      
   Mat 12:33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the   
   tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.   
      
   Mat 12:34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things?   
   for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.   
      
   Mat 12:35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth   
   good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil   
   things.   
      
   Mat 12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they   
   shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.   
      
   Mat 12:37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou   
   shalt be condemned.   
      
   Obviously Jesus here was speaking to the Jewish Disbelievers of His day,   
   those that were opposed to the works of the Father as done by Jesus via the   
   baptism of the Holy Spirit when his ministry began. Yet the doctrine is   
   applicable to those who follow him as describes those that say they do, but   
   do not. As they do it not by their works. Blessed is the man who follows the   
   path of the righteous who walks in the righteousness of God the Father.   
      
   Next onwards to the final point, of AI Rosie.   
      
   The Sign of Jonah   
      
   Mat 12:38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying,   
   Master, we would see a sign from thee.   
      
   Mat 12:39 But he answered and said unto them,An evil and adulterous   
   generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but   
   the sign of the prophet Jonas:   
      
   Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly;   
   so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the   
   earth.   
      
   Mat 12:41 The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and   
   shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and,   
   behold, a greater than Jonas is here.   
      
   Mat 12:42 The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this   
   generation, and shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of   
   the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon   
   is here.   
      
   V 42 references the generation to who Jesus was speaking in V39 the other   
   scriptures here point to the people who will stand up in judgment against   
   those Jews, since they had the full raw truth presented to them, with power,   
   showing that God was with him. What they had been given was far less, yet   
   they believed.   
      
   Lastly, Jesus spoke about those who were set free, but then yielded back to   
   the ways of the flesh and their ending was far worse than had they never been   
   set free. Verses 43 - 46.   
      
   Now I will return to reading what he went on to say, and depending on what I   
   read I may or may not reply.   
      
   For those that do not know, I call this person AI Rosie. As they take the   
   name of Christ in vain, and use it for their own purposes. They she or he,   
   are doing their best to not attach their name to what they say, and use AI to   
   generate their ‘commentaries’ they also have apparently seated themselves   
      
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