XPost: alt.religion.christian
From: .robert@mu.way
On Oct 5, 2025, James wrote
(Message-ID:<1ef5ek58oj5k4eef13f07q8n3gt3fgjk5l@4ax.com>):
> On Fri, 03 Oct 2025 18:56:51 -0700, None wrote:
>
> > On Oct 3, 2025, James wrote
> > (Message-ID:<0j10ekl7s1cu6k0h3hu1rg8ojmgge4ndmb@4ax.com>):
> >
> > > blood: What a Bible doctor wrote.
> > >
> > > Notice what was said to Noah:
> > >
> > > -- New King James
> > > Genesis 9:4 "But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its
> > > blood.
> > >
> > > Yes, before the Mosaic Laws came, God forbad Noah and his family to
> > > eat (drink) blood. That is how precious it is to God.
> >
> > You said that the soul was life. And further stated that it returned to
God.
> > Now you claim that blood is life. Does it return to God? What gives.
>
> Confusion for some. Both words "soul" and "spirit" can mean "life".
> The Scripture that says it returns to God is "spirit":
>
> -- New King James
> Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then the dust will return to the earth as it was,
> and the spirit will return to God who gave it.
That answer does not address the question regarding that “blood is life”
as you stated. So does that now mean that Blood, Soul, and Spirt “ can mean
life? Does that also return to God? That is what you infer.
>
>
> >
> > Also, you did not note that there was a covenant of God to Noah and all of
> > his descendants, as well as every creature that came out of the Ark.
> >
> > Gen 9:8 And God spake unto Noah, and to his sons with him, saying,
> >
> > Gen 9:9 And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed
> > after you;
> >
> > Gen 9:10 And with every living creature that is with you, of the fowl, of
> > the cattle, and of every beast of the earth with you; from all that go out
of
> > the ark, to every beast of the earth.
> >
> > Gen 9:11 And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh
> > be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more
> > be a flood to destroy the earth.
> >
> > Gen 9:12 And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make
> > between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for
perpetual
> > generations:
> >
> > Gen 9:13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a
> > covenant between me and the earth.
> >
> > Gen 9:14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth,
> > that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:
> >
> > Gen 9:15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and
> > every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a
> > flood to destroy all flesh.
> >
> > Gen 9:16 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I
> > may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature
> > of all flesh that is upon the earth.
>
> The whole earth hasn't been flooded again has it? With about 3/4 of
> the earth covered in water, it theoretically could happen again. But
> God said no! And that's how it stands.
You did not read this, did you. It cannot theoretically happen again, God
made the covenant with even the animal, and fowl world also. It was also to
all the descendants of Noah. That includes both you and me,
>
>
> >
> > Do you know His Covenant was of himself? A promise of his to all creatures
> > that is independent of the actions of men?
>
> It was concerning the flood waters of the earth.
Read it again, It was Gods Covenant to all and everything in this earth.
The Noahide covenant was in regards to killing, blood, animals etc.
>
>
> >
> > Did you note the sensitivity of God towards the humankind? Because in His
> > Image created he man. V6
> > This is one of the reasons that Satan treats mankind the way he does,
> > because when he sees Man he sees the image of God.
>
> Good point. I never thought of that. And the image that he gave us is
> LOVE, JUSTICE, WISDOM, and POWER. Those are infinite attributes of our
> Heavenly Father.
Man was created in the image of God before he had life. As to the attributes
you speak of do you understand the differences between a child of the
Heavenly Father and a child of the god of this world?
>
>
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Next notice the Mosaic Laws:
> > >
> > > -- New King James
> > > Leviticus 3:17 `This shall be a perpetual statute throughout your
> > > generations in all your dwellings: you shall eat neither fat nor
> > > blood.' ''
> >
> > Then this means that prime rib is out for you. Also all hamburger since it
is
> > certified and sold with varying percentages of Fat. No bacon. No sausages
of
> > any kind, even fried chicken and all meats that are finger licking good,
and
> > ducks would be out for they are very fatty. Is it means skinless, breast
meat
> > devoid of Fat for you. No liver of any type. Guess you all are caught
> > between a rock and a hard place.
>
> What's with this fat stuff? That was the Mosaic Law, not the Law of
> Christ. The blood Law was carried into Christianity, not the
> prohibition of fat.
You made a big point out of Lev 3:17 being unto all generations, Are you now
stating that the JW has nothing to do with the Jew? And cannot claim to be or
represent any part of them?
>
>
> > >
> > >
> > > So the eating of blood was reinserted into the Law Covenant.
> > >
> > > But Christians are not under the Law Covenant. They were done away
> > > with by Jesus' death.
> >
> > Then why bring it up? Yet the Noahide Covenant still stands.
>
> And God hasn't destroyed the earth by water again. And we can still
> eat meat as long as it is drained of blood.
If you see any red juice on your plate you are then forbidden from eating it.
Again I must remind you that that all the world is under the full Noahide
Covenant. Including you.
>
>
> > >
> > >
> > > -- New King James
> > > Romans 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to
> > > everyone who believes.
> >
> > That excludes everyone that does not believe that Jesus is God.
>
> That is the law of "None", not the Bible. If Jesus is God, what is
> your explanation for 1 Cor 11:3?
>
> -- King James
> 1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every
> man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of
> Christ is God.
Your twisted understanding of that verse is totally in error. It has been
explained to you by many people.
>
>
> Jesus was resurrected and in Heaven with God, when that was written.
Where does it say that? “When it was written” Why does all of the NT
proclaim Jesus as Lord? Translated by Jewish priests to mean God? 300 years
before the birth of Jesus.
John 1:1 disputes your understandings as well as the words of Jesus to satan
when tempted.
>
>
> > >
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