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   From: Kingdom.Kid@kk.n3w   
      
   On Fri, 3 Oct 2025 21:19:46 -0500, Christ Rose wrote:   
      
   > Judges 11: From Rejection to Redemption   
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   > Introduction   
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   > Judges 11 records Jephthah’s rise from rejection to leadership, his   
   > victory over the Ammonites, and the tragic vow that brought grief to his   
   > house. This passage shows God’s power to use the unlikely, but also   
   > warns about careless words and misguided attempts to approach God. It   
   > teaches that God alone sets the terms of worship, that He cannot be   
   > manipulated by vows, and that His provision in Christ is the only way of   
   > redemption. For believers today, the chapter reminds us to trust God’s   
   > promises, obey His Word, and rest in the finished work of Christ.   
      
   OK, but where is your supporting scripture? At least the numbers of the   
   verses supporting this.   
      
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   > Doctrine   
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   > This chapter teaches that God alone determines how He is to be   
   > worshiped. Israel was warned not to imitate pagan nations, for their   
   > worship included offering sons and daughters as sacrifices—something God   
   > called an abomination (Deuteronomy 12:31). Worship must be according to   
   > His revealed will, not human imagination. Jephthah’s rejection by his   
   > brothers but later acceptance as deliverer also points forward to   
   > Christ.   
      
   Judges 11:1:   
   Now Jephthah the Gileadite was a mighty man of valour, and he was the son   
   of an harlot: and Gilead begat Jephthah. you chose to inject Deut 12:31,   
   why? Did not Jephthah sacrifice his only child, his daughter?   
      
   And just where in that chapter was the Worship defined that is according   
   to his revealed will?   
      
   The mother of Jesus was not a whore.   
      
      
   Snipped what was not in this chapter.   
      
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   > Jephthah’s sacrifice is best understood not as the literal death of his   
   > daughter but as her dedication to lifelong service to the Lord. Several   
   > details point to this. First, the Hebrew conjunction *waw* in Judges   
   > 11:31 can mean “or,” which allows the vow to be read: “whatever comes   
   > out of the doors…shall be the Lord’s, or I will offer it up for a burnt   
   > offering.” This makes sense of the vow—if an animal came out, it would   
   > be offered as a burnt offering; if a person came out, he or she would be   
   > consecrated to the Lord’s service.   
   > the understanding that Jephthah’s daughter was devoted to lifelong   
   > service to God rather than sacrificed as a burnt offering.   
      
   31 then it shall come to pass that whosoever shall first come out of the   
   door of my house to meet me when I return in peace from the children of   
   Ammon, he shall be the Lord's: I will offer him up for a whole burnt   
   offering.   
      
   "he shall be the Lord's: I will offer him up for a whole burnt offering."   
      
   Where is the conjunction? There is none there.   
   Here is what the LITV translated the verse as. 31 then it shall be that   
   anything which comes out from the doors of my house to meet me when I   
   return in peace from the sons of Amnion, it shall belong to Jehovah; and   
   I   
   will offer it instead of a burnt offering.   
      
      
      
   39 And it came to pass at the end of two months, that she returned unto   
   her father, who did with her according to his vow which he had vowed: and   
   she knew no man. And it was a custom in Israel,   
   40 That the daughters of Israel went yearly to lament the daughter of   
   Jephthah the Gileadite four days in a year.   
      
   And the last two verses read like this in the LITV   
      
   39 And it happened at the end of two months, she returned to her father.   
   And he did to her his vow which he had vowed. And she never knew a man.   
   And it is a fixed custom in Israel,   
   40 from days to days, the daughters of Israel go to tell again of the   
   daughter of Jephthah the Gileadite, four days in a year.   
      
   Which is in conformity with v31   
      
   No fancy two step side dancing needed.   
      
   So just where in here is there a reference to Doctrine, which was the   
   header you gave for this section? Please be specific and on topic for   
   this   
   chapter is the focus of your post. Or was the primary focus the webpage   
   link that was at the beginning?   
      
      
      
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   > Reproof   
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   > Jephthah’s rash vow exposes the error of trying to manipulate God by   
   > human promises. The Spirit of the Lord had already come upon him before   
   > the battle (Judges 11:29), showing that victory was certain. Yet instead   
   > of trusting God’s promise, Jephthah tried to secure success by   
   > bargaining with God (Judges 11:30-31). His vow revealed a lack of faith   
   > and a misunderstanding of God’s holiness, since it opened the door to an   
   > outcome God had forbidden. Scripture rebukes this kind of rash speech:   
   > “Be not rash with your mouth…let your words be few” (Ecclesiastes 5:2).   
   > It also rebukes worship offered in ways God has not commanded (Leviticus   
   > 10:1-2). Jephthah’s vow shows the danger of careless words and distorted   
   > views of God’s will.   
      
   You did yourself a great disservice to judge Gods anointed here. Rash   
   Vow?   
   Why? Because of the outcome? His daughter fully understood, did not rebel   
   and fully followed the will of her father, and her father fully fulfilled   
   his. Was it costly to both him and her? Yes, but it was done that the   
   best   
   and costliest gift was to be given to the Lord for the success. That   
   sacrifice was much more than the normal blood sacrifice that would have   
   been the norm of that time.   
      
   To justify your criticism of him you point to scripture was written far   
   in   
   the future and because of that they could not be held to what wasn't   
   common knowledge of his time. In regards to Lev 10:1,2 it was not   
   applicable.   
      
   1And Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, each took his censer and put   
   fire   
   in them; and they put incense on it and brought strange fire before   
   Jehovah, which He had not commanded them.   
   2 And fire went out from before Jehovah and consumed them; and they died   
   before Jehovah.   
      
   Are you without understanding regarding v1? In regards to incense, the   
   fire they used? None of what they did was in accordance of the Law   
   Covenant. It also had nothing to due with human sacrifice.   
      
      
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   > Correction   
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   > God’s Word not only exposes error but also provides the right path. When   
   > people or things were devoted to the Lord, His law provided redemption   
   > by valuation instead of destruction (Leviticus 27:1-8). Jephthah had an   
   > alternative, but his failure reminds us that man’s inventions cannot   
   > substitute for God’s commands. The correction for us is to rest in God’s   
   > provision rather than adding our own bargains. In the larger picture,   
   > this directs us to Christ, who is the once-for-all sacrifice that God   
   > has accepted (Hebrews 10:12-14). We do not come to God by rash vows or   
   > human schemes, but by the perfect redemption that Christ accomplished at   
   > the cross.   
      
      
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