[continued from previous message]   
      
   > donor blood."   
      
   (snip tangent about child-killing biblical gods)   
      
   James, you have to stay on track. 300-line posts are pointless fluffery.   
      
      
   > >> Don't get me started on the pseudo-science of evolution.   
   > >   
   > >That's not an argument you're ever going to win.   
   >   
   > Did you read what you snipped? I think I make a very good mathematical   
   > point to reason on. But I will stop it here if you wish.   
      
   Yes I read it.  There's no math in it.  There's nothing I haven't heard   
   before.   
      
   We'll do a thread on evolution next time.   
      
   (snip)   
      
   > >Does he overlook the extraordinary mortal duress you were under when you   
   > >supposedly made the decision to comply or not?   
   >   
   > God sees an individual's actions, if He wants to. Contrary to the   
   > churches' teachings, God doesn't always know everything.   
      
   Reminds me of a James Bond movie, where the bad guy captured Bond and   
   interrogated him:   
   James Bond: "Do you really expect me to talk?"   
   Villain: "No, Mr. Bond. I expect you to die."   
      
      
   > >I'm an atheist.  I don't need to have beliefs, thanks for asking.   
   >   
   > Well, you believe you are an atheist, that's a belief is it not?   
      
   Yes, and I believe we aren't all having mass halucinations too.  These   
   are the trivial "beliefs" that we accept just by going on with life.   
      
      
   > >> If you have any Bible questions, don't hesitate to ask. And have a   
   > >> good one.   
   > >   
   > >Oh, all right.   
      
   Now this is a rabbit hole I will follow...   
      
   > >Can a man see Jehovah and live?   
   >   
   > No, the Creator of all the suns in the universe is too magnificent for   
   > our flesh. Thus He is merciful to us by not appearing as the spirit   
   > being He is.   
      
   Adam, Abraham, Isaac, Moses, Aaron, & 70 high priests all saw God. Jacob   
   wrestled with him.  Stated plainly and clearly in the OT.  How do you   
   reconcile that with what you just said?   
      
   And, how could a spirit "appear" to us?  You mean spirits can interact   
   with material light waves that we can see?   
      
   >   
   > >Would welding goggles help?   
   >   
   > What's their melting temp?   
      
   What is the effective temperature of God?  And don't you think that's   
   demoting God to existence in the material plane?   
      
   > >Has anyone ever died from seeing Jehovah?   
   >   
   > No, because He never appeared to a human before. If you are thinking   
   > of Jesus, he is NOT God.   
      
   You're saying there's no empirical evidence that man can't see God and   
   live.   
      
   But the Bible has stories to the contrary.  God showed Moses his   
   bare-ass naked butt, and that was enough for Moses (that time).   
   Michelangelo illustrated the event on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel.   
      
      
   > >Thanks for your reply.  You have a good one too, peace out.   
   >   
   > Peace always.   
   >   
   > Sincerely James   
   > "Can Peacekeeping Efforts Create a Peaceful World?   
   > Get the Answer". See jw.org (10/08/2025)   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)