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   From: .robert@mu.way   
      
   On Oct 15, 2025, James wrote   
   (Message-ID:<9rrtekdsolkrkp3q73ija2e5aiu8if91v8@4ax.com>):   
      
   > On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 22:44:54 -0700, Robert<.robert@mu.way>  wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Oct 13, 2025, James wrote   
   > > (Message-ID:<1q3qektpce7rdfvsbqr6os1bul25im6049@4ax.com>):   
   > >   
   > > > On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 10:16:41 -0700, Robert<.robert@mu.way>  wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > > On Oct 12, 2025, James wrote   
   > > > > (Message-ID:):   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 19:46:59 -0700, Robert<.robert@mu.way>  wrote:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Jhn 14:12-14   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > 12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the   
   works that I   
   > > > > > > do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do;   
   because I   
   > > > > > > go unto my Father.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > 13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the   
   > > > > > > Father may be glorified in the Son.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > This promise does not belong strictly to the Full Gospel types,   
   neither   
   > > > > > > the Charismatic believers, but to all Born Again Believers who   
   have been   
   > > > > > > baptized by Jesus according to the prophecy of John the Baptist.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > If you care to understand the fullness of this scripture continue   
   on   
   > > > > > > from V15 - 21   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > In all these things those that deny the workings of the Heavenly   
   Father   
   > > > > > > through the Believer miss out on.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Why would anyone want to shun the workings of God in their lives   
   and   
   > > > > > > those around them is beyond me, and to teach such things is to   
   project the   
   > > > > > > words of   
   > > > > > > the evil one and deny from others the blessings of God through the   
   death   
   > > > > > > and resurrection.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Re: Is Yahweh/Jesus still seated at the right hand of His Father?   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Yes, but sitting at God's right side signifies being subordanent. And   
   > > > > > the Scriptures concurr. While Jesus was in Heaven with God:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > -- King James   
   > > > > > 1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every   
   > > > > > man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of   
   > > > > > Christ is God.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Sincerely James   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Corrected your top posting.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Sitting at the right hand of God the Father is a place of the greatest   
   Honor   
   > > > > that the Heavenly Father can bestow. He sets Jesus before all of   
   mankind.   
   > > > > To worship as Himself.   
   > > >   
   > > > Also, it is a subordinate position. (John 14:28)   
   > >   
   > > That scripture does not support that at all. Which has been explained to   
   you   
   > > countless times.   
   >   
   > John 14:28 sure does:   
   >   
   > -- King James   
   > John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come   
   > again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go   
   > unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.   
      
   That does NOT make him unequal, just as marriage does not make the spouses   
   unequal.   
   >   
   >   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Jesus said, Jhn 8:54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is   
   > > > > nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is   
   your God:   
   > > >   
   > > > That proves that Jesus is not God, since God honors Himself. For   
   > > > example see Ex 20:1-11.   
   > >   
   > > The Lord that is spoken there is the creator. Jesus is the creator.   
   >   
   > Jesus assisted God in creation. But God is the Creator:   
   >   
   > -- King James   
   > Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.   
   >   
   > That is a Bible truth that you can't dispute.   
      
   Never did, never want to. Plus in whose image was man created?   
      
   “And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let   
   them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air,   
   and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing   
   that creepeth upon the earth.” (Gen 1:26)   
      
   I notice that you did not care to mention the name of God there, something   
   that you claim makes the JW the most correct. It is ‘Elohiym   
      
   Also, a side not here regarding that name. It blows you out of the water as   
   well as many others who believe “God” is singular(one). In Hebrew Strong   
   #H430   
      
   God (Hebrew: ’Elohiym (H430), Gods, Gen 1:1)   
      
   Want to know what the singular form of God is? It is H433 Thus one or one of.   
      
   You, I remind you again, state that you believe ALL OF the scriptures. Yet   
   this very first scripture you as well as many others deny. Most out of   
   Ignorance of the Word of God, as well as many who have been misled by men and   
   religions, as well as false theology when it comes the the creator God.   
      
   Second side note here, this is not for James the JW, but for all who call   
   themselves Christian believers.   
      
   While I have yet to wrap my head fully around this understanding, yet I know   
   it to be true. When I firmly and totally gave my heart to the Lord, he God,   
   led me into this understanding. It took me many months of hearing His leading   
   to fully believe these scriptures, as I was under the understanding that to   
   think and understand these things was sacrilegious, to the point of possible   
   condemnation to Hell. But after many months of searching the scriptures, and   
   seeing the in-depth meanings of the words from various sources depending in   
   the main upon the Holy Spirit to lead me as Jesus promised to us, I finally   
   had to admit that what the scripture said contained the truth all along, ever   
   since it was written. And now, even now, as I read and study the scriptures I   
   see the evidential proofs of understanding coming forth out of scripture   
   confirming the truth that the Lord led me to. These truths are both in the NT   
   as well as the Old.It is as Paul stated, we see through the glass darkly.   
      
   For any doubters, seek God, seek the Word of God, but seek the word with the   
   Holy Spirit and not just with the reasoning of your fleshly mind or mindset.   
   For there is a way that seems right to men, but the ends there of is Death.   
      
   >   
   > > “Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given,   
   > > that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;   
   > > And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from   
   the   
   > > beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by   
   Jesus   
   > > Christ:” (Eph 3:8-9)   
   >   
   > That is just what I said. God created all things "through" Jesus. (Col   
   > 1:16; NKJV)   
      
   No you did not, “Through” never meant that God the Father did these   
      
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