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|    Robert to James    |
|    Re: Is Yahweh/Jesus still seated at the     |
|    15 Oct 25 15:51:45    |
      [continued from previous message]              > > to belittle the one you claim to serve and follow? Is it because you follow       > > the god of this earth as did the Pharisees of old?       >       > I call it like it is:              So did those pharisees who belittled Jesus as did the god of this world.              So did Lucifer who said: "I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne       above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation,       in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I       will be like the most High. "              > - King James       > 1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every       > man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of       > Christ is God.       >       > There is nothing here about Jesus being humble before God,              There is noting in that verse that says the name of Jesus either. Yet it is       understood in light of the context of all the scriptures, and especially       noted throughout ALL the Gospels. So who are you trying to fool? I am not       ignorant of your devices/       > only you       > say that without Scriptural proof. It is not a complicated Scripture.       > IF Jesus was God, then Paul is saying the head of Christ is Christ.       > Unless Paul was completely wiped out with wine, he would never say       > that. Even then, I would doubt it.              Again, I refer you to these scriptural truths, that you choose to ignore,       deny, and chose not to understand in spite of your claiming that you       believe“all the REAL Scriptures” as if there is some secret copy       somewhere that no one is privy too that is perfectly translated. This is       another treacherous statement of yours cloaked with deceit.              Here, so that others can see what you choose to deny, and have for all your       life as a JW. These scriptures speak to the redeemed of God. Those who       believe in/upon the LORD Jesus Christ. It is not for the heathen, the false       christian, nor the wolves who all are NOT part of the family of God.              Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:              Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal       with God:              Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a       servant, and was made in the likeness of men:              Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became       obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.              Plus remember that Jesus who is seated at the right hand of God, which is a       seat of Honor, Jesus did not attempt to unseat His Heavenly Father from his       throne. It was the Heavenly Father that seated him there, and gave Jesus the       name above ALL others.              >       >       > > >       > > >       > > > >       > > > > Rom 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee       shall       > > > > bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.       > > > >       > > > > Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in       > > > > heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;       > > > >       > > > > The last verse speaks of all those that are in hell shall bow as well.       > > >       > > > The Bible hell is the grave. And when people go there they "go down in       > > > silence".       > >       > > Hades is NOT the Grave.       > > >       > > > G3419(Strong)       > > >       > > > ????????? mne?meion mnay-mi’-on       > > >       > > > From G3420; aremembrance, that is, cenotaph (place of interment): -       grave,       > > > sepulchre, tomb.       > >       > > There, you were reminded of what a Grave is, from the koine greek language.       > >       > > Remember it well, do not be known as a persistent liar. And One who parrots       > > the watchtower mag as is it were scripture, or the God of Scripture.       >       > Your church does have a tight grip on you. Break away!              What? You are now afraid of the scripture and now call it my church? Are you       now going to deny the truth of scripture that used this word? And its       definition?       >       >       > Yes, hades (hell) is the grave. Notice what these translations said       > "hades" is:              It is the graveyard of dead souls. Not their bodies.       >       > > > > Isa 45:23 I have sworn by Myself, the word is gone out of My mouth in       > > > > righteousness and shall not return, that unto Me every knee shall bow,       > > > > every       > > > > tongue shall swear [allegiance]. [Rom 14:11; Php 2:10-11; Heb 6:13]       > > > >       > > > > If you seek the truth, read Isaiah 45:18-25 For it will destroy all       your       > > > > false doctrine, for that is what is written of in Romans 14:11.       > > >       > > > It will destroy nothing.       > >       > > It already did for it was written far, far in advance of the watchtower       > > magazine.       >       > ?? Yes, I agree with all Scripture as do all JW's. The Watchtower       > magazine is a Bible-aid magazine. Nothing more nothing less.              It is your dogma, your training.propaganda mag. The mag agrees not with the       word of God or you would know and believe that Jesus is God. The Word of God,       that Jesus is the Door, The Way, and the Truth, that only through Him can one       enter into heaven. And everyone whose name is written in the lambs book of       life will enter there, not limited to 144K Jewish young virgin men.       >       > > >       > > > >       > > > > Jesus, the Anointed One came to do the will of His Heavenly Father, to       speak       > > > > His Words, to do His Works, to bring Honor and Glory unto his Father.       He       > > > > spoke that freely if full humility and with Honor       > > > >       > > > > That you would seek to demean The Lord Jesus Christ, as if he were not       to       > > > > be       > > > > honored above all men, which BTW his Heavenly Father declared him to       be,       > > > > is without respect, and is of the evil one.       > > >       > > > You mistaken as usual. When I quoted 1 Cor 11:3, I just placed Jesus       > > > above humans. Here it is again:       > > >       > > > - King James       > > > 1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every       > > > man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of       > > > Christ is God.       > > >       > > > Did you see that I didn't demean Jesus in any way. Just repeated what       > > > the Bible already said.       > >       > > So did your father satan as he stood beside Jesus and quoted scripture to       him.       > > Which Jesus answered and said, it is written, thou shalt not tempt the Lord       > > they God.       > > He twisted the scriptures as if he thought that God, who became human to       > > save humanity would forget who he is. You, just like your father satan,       attempt       > > to defame Jesus at every opportunity, to belittle him, to cause others to       do so       > > likewise. Yet that same Jesus is the Judge, on the day of Judgment over all       > > on the last day. Every word you spoke in your life will be repeated to you       > > in a moment, and by your own words you will be convicted. Only the Blood of       > > Jesus Christ can spare you from your sins.       >       > Boy, if you don't change from those Satanic churches' teachings, you       > are going to be so shocked when you find out Jehovah's Witnesses was       > the true religion in the last days.       >       > They are presently fulfilling Mt 24:14 and Isa 2:2-4, etc. Unlike the       > churches which you have to go to them to get spiritual food (rotten),       > God sends the JW's to your house to get spiritual food. So God comes       > to you. And that's the way it should be.              They flee from my door, and usually avoid it like the plague. Too many times       I showed them the truth of scripture, and those noobs who accompanied them       want to know more of what I have, and they immediately run away dragging them       with them lest they find out the full truth of scripture.              Especially when they see that after all there pain and suffering, that when       they die, they are dead, forever, per the JW doctrine. As they see it as a              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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