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   Thu, 16 Oct 2025 17:10:01 -0700   
   <10cs1gp$orbj$1@dont-email.me>   
   Would-be-deceiver, demonic envy-boy,   
   and sock-puppet troll "Robert" (a.k.a   
   "None", "Dr. Who", "Anonymous", "HTH",   
   "ahisrwic", "Rock", "KK", "Creon",   
   "Madhu") wrote:   
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   > "The sign gifts like tongues, healings, and miracles are what ceased after   
   > they confirmed the gospel, just as the Bible indicated they would.”   
   >   
   > There is no such wording in the NT.   
      
      
   1) The Bible doesn't have to use that exact wording for the statement to   
   be true. This is your constant lying pattern of attempted deceit. You   
   regularly promote the LIE that if the words you decide to slap quote   
   marks on are not a verbatim citation of Scripture, then it must mean the   
   Bible doesn't teach that. That is a STUPID LIE. The Bible doesn't have   
   to use those exact words for the statement to be true and accurate   
   according to the Bible.   
      
   2) The Bible teaches exactly what I claimed:   
      
   A) The Bible plainly teaches that healing, miracles and tongues were   
   "gifts" of the Holy Spirit.   
      
   1 Corinthians 12:7–11 – “...For to one is given through the   
   SPIRIT...GIFTS of healing by the one Spirit, to another the working of   
   MIRACLES...to another various kinds of TONGUES...All these are EMPOWERED   
   BY ONE AND THE SAME SPIRIT, WHO APPORTIONS TO EACH ONE INDIVIDUALLY AS   
   HE WILLS.” (emphasis added).   
      
   So yes, the Bible teaches healing, miracles and tongues are "gifts".   
      
   B) The Bible plainly associates healing, miracles, and tongues with   
   "signs" and "wonders":   
      
   Mark 16:17–18, ESV: “And these SIGNS will accompany those who believe:   
   in my name they will...speak in new tongues...they will lay their hands   
   on the sick, and they will recover [healing].” (emphasis added)   
      
   Healing and tongues were "signs".   
      
   “Thus tongues are a sign not for believers but for unbelievers, while   
   prophecy is a sign not for unbelievers but for believers.” (1   
   Corinthians 14:22, ESV)   
      
   "Tongues ARE a SIGN" (emphasis added).   
      
   Acts 4:30, ESV: “While you stretch out your hand to heal, and signs and   
   wonders are performed through the name of your holy servant Jesus.”   
      
   Healing is one of the "signs".   
      
   Hebrews 2:4, ESV: “While God also bore witness by signs and wonders and   
   various miracles and by gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according   
   to his will.”   
      
   Miracles are associated with "signs" and "gifts" of the Holy Spirit.   
      
   Conclusion: The Bible teaches that tongues, healing, and miracles were   
   "gifts" of the Holy Spirit. The Bible associates tongues, healing, and   
   miracles with "signs" and "wonders". Thus you are a STUPID LIAR and   
   WOULD-BE DECEIVER.   
      
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