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   On Oct 20, 2025, James wrote   
   (Message-ID:):   
      
   > On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 00:02:56 -0700, None  wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Oct 19, 2025, James wrote   
   > > (Message-ID:):   
   > >   
   > > > God's Personal Name: What is it?   
   > > >   
   > > > NO ONE TODAY KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. PERIOD.   
   > > >   
   > > > It is found in the Bible in the form of 4 Hebrew consonant letters:   
   > > > YHWH (some say YHVH)   
   > > > Those 4 Hebrew letters are called the Tetragrammaton. They occur in   
   > > > the Bible about 7000 times.   
   > > >   
   > > > The favored English name by Hebrew Scholars is the TRANSLITERATED name   
   > > > "Yahweh". But each language has its own pronunciation of the   
   > > > TRANSLATED name. Here are some examples:   
   > > >   
   > > > English= Jehovah. (Latinized) KJV Bible Ps 83:18.   
   > > > In Danish "Jehova"   
   > > > In Fijan "Jiova"   
   > > > In Italian "Geova"   
   > > > In Japanese "Ehoba"   
   > > > In Spanish "Jehová"   
   > > > In French "Je'hovah (conventional literary form)   
   > > > In German "Jehovah" (German Elberfelder version)   
   > > > (See Deut 4:2)   
   > > >   
   > > > But for English, the most known name for God is the Latinized name   
   > > > "Jehovah". It has been around since the 17th century. The popular King   
   > > > James Version of 1611, recorded it in a few places such as Ex 6:3 and   
   > > > Ps 83:18.   
   > > >   
   > > > Notice:   
   > > >   
   > > > "Biblical scholar Francis B. Dennio said: "Jehovah misrepresents   
   > > > Yahweh no more than Jeremiah misrepresents Yirmeyahu. The settled   
   > > > connotations of Isaiah and Jeremiah forbid questioning their right."   
   > > > Dennio argued that the form Jehovah is not a barbarism, but is the   
   > > > best English form available, being that it has for centuries gathered   
   > > > the necessary connotations and associations for valid use in English."   
   > > > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah)   
   > > >   
   > > > A superstition arose around the 2nd century BCE that said NOT to   
   > > > pronounce the divine name. The reasons are unclear, but one reason is   
   > > > that the divine name was too holy to pronounce. Yet the Bible recorded   
   > > > it almost 7000 times   
   > > >   
   > > > Anyway, they substituted the Tetragrammaton for "Lord" or "God". And   
   > > > most ALL translations follow that example. For example, compare the   
   > > > two:   
   > > >   
   > > > -- King James   
   > > > Exodus 6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob,   
   > > > by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to   
   > > > them.   
   > > >   
   > > > -- New King James   
   > > > Exodus 6:3 "I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, as God   
   > > > Almighty, but by My name, Lord, I was not known to them.   
   > > >   
   > > > So is "Jehovah" a legitimate name for God? Again notice:   
   > > >   
   > > > ""the English form Jehovah is an Anglicized form of Yehovah,"[18] and   
   > > > preserves the four Hebrew consonants "YHVH" (with the introduction of   
   > > > the "J" sound in English).[18][20][21] Some argue that Jehovah is   
   > > > preferable to Yahweh, based on their conclusion that the   
   > > > Tetragrammaton was likely tri-syllabic originally, and that modern   
   > > > forms should therefore also have three syllables.[22]"   
   > > > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah)   
   > > >   
   > > > So "Jehovah" "preserves the four Hebrew consonants of "YHVH"" and   
   > > > today is the most used name for God.   
   > > >   
   > > > The Septuagint (OT in Greek instead of Hebrew) of today is of the 4th   
   > > > or 5th centuries C.E. And sure enough, by that time pronouncing the   
   > > > Tetragrammaton was not done. But in it's place they inserted the words   
   > > > "Lord" or "God".   
   > > >   
   > > > BUT the original Septuagint DID contain the Tetragrammaton. A fragment   
   > > > of the Septuagint (2nd half of Deuteronomy) DID contain the   
   > > > Tetragrammaton. (See Inventory Number 266 of the Fouad Papyri) It has   
   > > > a date by scholars of around 2nd or 1st B.C.E.   
   > >   
   > > The septuagint was written in Greek.   
   > >   
   > > “And I appeared to Abraam and Isaac and Jacob, being their God, but I did   
   > > not manifest to them my name Lord.” (Exo 6:3, Brenton)   
   >   
   > They made God just lie. "Lord" is a TITLE, not a name.   
      
   No one can make the Heavenly Father lie. In the koine Greek the word   
   translated into English was kurios.   
   This is the word translated from Hebrew into koine Greek by the priests of   
   Israel 300 years before Christ was born. This was in the original Septuagint.   
   The greek usage of the term in that day was this.   
      
   kurios   
      
   Thayer Definition:   
      
   1) he to whom a person or thing belongs, about which he has power of   
   deciding; master, lord   
      
   1a) the possessor and disposer of a thing   
      
   1a1) the owner; one who has control of the person, the master   
      
   1a2) in the state: the sovereign, prince, chief, the Roman emperor   
      
   1b) is a title of honour expressive of respect and reverence, with which   
   servants greet their master   
      
   1c) this title is given to: God, the Messiah   
      
   NOTICE the last line above. To whom was this title given?   
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   > >   
   > > “And?G2532? I appeared?G3708? to?G4314? Abraham,?G*?   
   > > and?G2532? Isaac,?G*? and?G2532? Jacob,?G*?   
   > > [3God?G2316?1being?G1510.6?2their].?G1473? And?G2532 G3588?   
   > > my name,?G3686 G1473? the LORD,?G2962? was not?G3756?   
   > > manifested?G1213? to them.?G1473?” (Exo 6:3)   
   >   
   > Notice:   
   >   
   > -- American Standard   
   > Exodus 6:3 and I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob,   
   > as God Almighty; but by my name Jehovah I was not known to them.   
   >   
   > That is what Ex 6:3 should say.   
      
   What I gave you above was the greek translation, from the septuagint. The   
   Greek used in that day and as translated by the Hebrew/Israelite priests. As   
   such it said what it said. So why argue about it. As mentioned to you before,   
   there is no such thing as a religious language. What a word means is what it   
   means. God or god, are the same word in English, theos is theos in the greek,   
   period, no caps, no special punctuations, nothing to distinguish what the   
   word means whether it be good or evil. The only reason god is capitalized in   
   English is because of bozo’s. People too ignorant to comprehend the subject   
   within the context it was written. “For this ye know, that no whoremonger,   
   nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any   
   inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.” (Eph 5:5)   
      
   An idolator is one who follows a false god. “Thou shalt have no other gods   
   before me.” (Exo 20:3)   
      
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   > > > The NWT has restored the OT Tetragrammaton in all of its nearly 7000   
   > > > places.   
   > > >   
   > > > Sincerely James   
   > >   
   > > NWT Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.   
   > >   
   > > Throughout that chapter the word “God’ was used.   
   >   
   > The first use of God's name "Jehovah" was at Genesis 2:4:   
   >   
   > -- American Standard   
      
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