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   The biblical data itself, not the shifting meanings of English words,   
   determines doctrine. Scripture shows that sign gifts like tongues,   
   miracles and healings were temporary. For example, the Greek middle   
   voice in “tongues shall ceaseâ€� (1 Corinthians 13:8) indicates they would   
   â€œcease of themselves,â€� while prophecy and knowledge would “be done   
   awayâ€�   
   by an outside cause when “the perfectâ€� comes. This confirms that tongues   
   were not meant to continue indefinitely.   
      
   Furthermore, Hebrews 2:3-4 testifies that the gifts already confirmed   
   (Greek ebebaiÅ   
   thÄ“, aorist passive) the gospel message. The confirming   
   signs had served their purpose—God had borne witness through them—and   
   Scripture now carries that confirmation for later generations (John   
   20:31). No ongoing repetition of those signs is ever commanded or expected.   
      
   Later epistles like 1 John specifically tell the church how to discern   
   if someone is a child of God or a child of the devil. They mention not   
   one single thing about believers performing miracles, healings, or   
   speaking tongues as evidence of being a child of God (1 John).   
      
   For 15 convincing Bible evidences that sign gifts like tongues,   
   healings, and miracles (not all spiritual gifts, just the sign gifts)   
   ceased during the lifetime of the apostles, see   
   https://christrose.news/ceased.   
      
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   Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (†), and God   
   raised Him from the dead?   
      
   That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death   
   penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death   
   satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John   
   2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your   
   sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.   
      
   On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on   
   the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name   
   of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).   
      
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