home bbs files messages ]

Forums before death by AOL, social media and spammers... "We can't have nice things"

   alt.bible      General bible-thumping discussions      96,161 messages   

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]

   Message 94,629 of 96,161   
   James to None   
   Re: Satan's greatest holliday almost upo   
   22 Oct 25 23:42:39   
   
   [continued from previous message]   
      
   >It does exist. And if a child of mine were to end there, it would be by their   
   >choice. They have all been warned.   
      
   And your love for the child?   
      
   >   
   >There are 100’s if not 1,000’s of recent stories from people who died and   
   >were revived, who were not drugged, who went to hell, some of them who   
   >thought they were christians. Whose stories are consistent with one another   
   >who are now totally convinced to the truth of hell fire. It is nothing to   
   >make light of, nor should anyone ignore it.   
      
   That is a satanic teaching. And the whole world is ran by Satan. He is   
   its god. So guess who plants those ideas in their heads? We know of   
   demon possesion in the Bible, so it's not hard to know who.   
      
   >   
   >Also, since you say you believe that lie, then why be a JW or any other   
   >religious doctrine? Why waste your time, especially when by the JW standards   
   >you are a loser since you will not be one of the 144K?   
      
   Picture the best time you ever had. Now multiply that by 1000, which   
   it is what it will be on the Paradise earth. I look forward to   
   enjoying the pleasures on that Paradise earth. As Jesus put it:   
      
   - King James   
   Matthew 5:5  Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.   
      
   I am used to living on this planet. And I enjoy it even though it is   
   ran by Satan. Take Satan out of the picture, and it's going to be   
   glorious.   
      
      
   >Why follow their rules?   
      
   You mean the Bible's rules, since all beliefs of the JW's comes from   
   the Bible.   
      
      
   >Why refuse to take blood if it will save your life of   
   >one of your kin?   
      
   Because the Bible tells Christians NO! (Acts 15:29)   
      
   >What good is it to spend your own money on them and their   
   >work when there is no personal benefit to you?   
      
   Only everlasting perfect life on a Paradise earth. I would call that a   
   benefit.   
      
   >   
   >For near a century the JW’s taught when you were dead, that's it. No   
   >resurrection for you,   
      
   I don't think so. You would have to prove that to me. What literature   
   were you referring to.   
      
   >now you waffle on that point, claiming you might be,   
   >while at the same time claim there is no resurrection. And yet you claim that   
   >both the good and the evil people will be resurrected. To what? A life   
   >outside the city like a Dawg?   
      
   Where are you getting these false statements? Let me make it clear.   
   When you die you cease to exist FOR A WHILE. (Ps 146:3,4)   
   Then you are given a new body in the resurrection. (Acts 24:15)   
   Probably looking like the one you first had. (see how Lazarus was   
   resurrected and was recognizable as Lazarus   
      
   Then all those resurrected will be given the opportunity to worship   
   God. Those that do will inherit the earth. Those that don't will   
   return to the dust they were made from, and will eternally cease to   
   exist. No torture, no sticking pins in him, no having their limbs   
   being torn from their body, no pulling out their fingernails, etc.   
   They will forfeit their lives.   
      
   >   
   >You like to think of yourself as a rational being, yet there is no rationale   
   >for what you claim to follow, especially now that you isolate yourself and   
   >your understanding from that of the JW’s.   
      
   You are dreaming again.   
      
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Did you know that EVERYONE gets out of hell? (grave)(Rev 20:13) The   
   >> churches don't teach you that.   
   >   
   >ROTFLOL! Didn't see that one coming. If there is no hell then how do they get   
   >out?   
      
   I have told you this many times. sheol and hades are hell. and that is   
   the grave. Here is a translation that uses "hell" instead of sheol:   
      
   DRA   
   Who will grant me this, that thou mayst protect me in hell [sheol],   
   and hide me till thy wrath pass, and appoint me a. time when thou wilt   
   remember me?  [brackets mine] (Jog 14:13)   
      
   - Webster's Bible   
   Job 14:13  O that thou wouldst hide me in the grave, that thou wouldst   
   keep me secret, until thy wrath is past, that thou wouldst appoint me   
   a set time, and remember me!   
      
   -- New Revised Standard with Apocrypha   
   Job 14:13 O that you would hide me in Sheol,   
   that you would conceal me until your wrath is past,   
   that you would appoint me a set time, and remember me!   
      
   So let's summaize:   
      
   hell = sheol = grave   
      
      
   >Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose   
   >face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for   
   >them.   
   >   
   >Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the   
   >books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life:   
   >and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books,   
   >according to their works.   
   >   
   >Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell   
   >delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man   
   >according to their works.   
   >   
   >Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the   
   >second death.   
   >   
   >Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast   
   >into the lake of fire.   
   >   
   >There is the full story, do you see the ending in V15? If your name is not   
   >found in the book of life, which contains the names of those who believed in   
   >Jesus, the Lamb of God, then your eternal existence is not pleasant.   
      
   You read the Scriptures yourself.   
      
   Vs 13: death and hell let out all the people in them. The churches   
   never teach you that.   
   V14: Death and hell tossed into Lake of Fire. Can death be tortured   
   and burned? Can hell?   
      
   >   
   >The word for grave was not there. “mne?meion"   
   >   
   >>   
   >> >   
   >> > PS: there is a verse that speaks to scaring the hell out of people lest   
   they   
   >> > be lost. Albeit not in those exact terms.   
   >>   
   >> Which Scripture?   
   >   
   >Would it even matter to you as you choose to disbelieve most every scripture   
   >presented to you.   
      
   I believe every Scripture presented to me, except bad individual   
   translations.   
      
   >Jud 1:20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith,   
   >praying in the Holy Ghost,   
   >   
   >Jud 1:21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our   
   >Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.   
   >   
   >Jud 1:22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:   
   >   
   >Jud 1:23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even   
   >the garment spotted by the flesh.   
   >   
   >Do you follow V20?   
   >   
   >Do you believe V21?   
      
   Like I said above, I believe ALL Scriptures. (see above)   
      
   >   
   >Do you understand V22 and V23?   
   >   
   >Most cessationist don’t believe of understand these verses.   
      
   Yes, as they are written.   
   >   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Sincerely James   
   >   
   >Matthew 13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so   
   >shall it be in the end of this world.   
      
   What happens to tares after they burn up? They are non-existant.   
      
   Sincerely James   
   "Can Prayer Help With Anxiety?   
   Find Out". See jw.org (10/22/2025)   
      
      
      
   >   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]


(c) 1994,  bbs@darkrealms.ca