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From: none@none.non
On Oct 22, 2025, James wrote
(Message-ID:):
> On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 15:28:42 -0700, None wrote:
>
> > On Oct 20, 2025, James wrote
> > (Message-ID:):
> >
> > > On Fri, 17 Oct 2025 11:12:38 -0700, Robert<.robert@mu.way> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Oct 17, 2025, James wrote
> > > > (Message-ID:):
> > > >
> > > > > Actually, Satan goes out representing the churches, who claim God
> > > > > tortures living beings in a literal fire. Satan is so pleased that so
> > > > > many people fell for his sadistic doctrine. You really know how to
> > > > > make his day! As he says to you, keep up the good work.
> > > >
> > > > Odd that you say satan wants to scare the hell out of people in order
to
> > > > make them run to Jesus, as God.
> > >
> > > No, as a god.
> >
> > Your denial of God is obvious.
> >
> > What you are claiming is that one god is scaring the hell out of them in
> > order to make people flee him as satan and turn to another god which
> > according to you is Jesus the Messiah.
>
> Satan is called a "god" (2 Cor 4:4), then how much more so would Jesus
> be a "god".
> >
> > That makes no sense/
>
> That Jesus is God, contradicts numerous Scriptures. If you want them,
> just ask.
>
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > If one were to follow that premise out, then the JW’s are a tool of
the
> > > > evil one, setting them up in a trap.
> > > >
> > > > Teaching that God is not a God of judgment,
> > >
> > > Robert, Robert, Robert, how many times have I told you God IS a God of
> > > judgment? The penalty for rejecting God is to lose one's life. Not to
> > > be conscious any more. Not to have feelings any more. Not to love any
> > > more. That is justice served on a solid golden plate!
> >
> > James. You have been shown from Scripture that God is a God of judgment.
> > Perhaps 100’s of times, yet you chose to disbelieve the truth. Those who
> > teach such lies as you promote might make people think that there is no
hell
> > or lake of fire, so they can sin at will since there is no eternal damage
>
> If they continue to sin at will, God will do to them what governments
> do to murderers. They take their lives. God will do the same thing.
>
> > done, which is why many commit suicide, only to instantly see the demons of
> > hell staring them straight in the face.
>
> They have a blank screen, and can see no one. They visit the place
> they were before they were even conceived.
> >
> > And those like you are responsible for that way of thinking, thus those who
> > followed your concepts, pay the price and each time it adds to your sins
> > since you bear responsibility for the words that come out of your mouth.
>
> I sure hope so, since the words coming out of my mouth are Bible
> truths. For example, JW's are fulfilling Mt 24:14 as we speak. That is
> the only hope for mankind at the present time. And in the last days
> (which is now) you MUST see a group of people proclaiming the coming
> soon of God's kingdom.
>
> How do you know it is JW's proclaiming that? On the cover of any
> Watchtower Bible-aid magazine, that are left at many people's doors
> all over the world, are the words: ANNOUNCING JEHOVAH'S KINGDOM.
>
> Do you know what that Kingdom is?
>
> > >
> > >
> > > > therefore no hell for humans.
> > >
> > > Hell in the Bible is the grave, where people like the dead Lazarus was
> > > at until Jesus resurrected him. People have to be DEAD to be
> > > resurrected, otherwise there is no need for a resurrection since they
> > > are already alive.
> >
> > I have shown you the word for Grave, Graves, tombs, etc. It is very
> > definitive, so why have you rejected it, the bare truth.
>
> Then explain this. Job wanted to go to hell (sheol) TO GET RELIEF from
> his agonies. Why would he do that?
>
> DRA
> Who will grant me this, that thou mayst protect me in hell [sheol],
> and hide me till thy wrath pass, and appoint me a. time when thou wilt
> remember me? [brackets mine]
>
> "O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, [sheol] that thou wouldest
> keep me secret, until thy wrath be past, that thou wouldest appoint me
> a set time, and remember me!" (KJV) [brackets mine]
>
> Carefully compare those two Scriptures:
>
> DRA translates the Hebrew word "sheol" as "hell".
> KJV translates the Hebrew word "sheol" as "grave
>
> Thus "hell" = "grave". & hell
>
> > >
> > >
> > > > Like a spiders web, they get caught up in the evil ones grip, only to
find
> > > > out that when they pass on from this life that Satan goes.....
> > >
> > > Or like walking in a mine field. One bad step and you cease to be.
> >
> > In this world, you cease to be, but not never from the spiritual world. For
> > that reason Jesus said it would have been far better if a person were to
> > have
> > never been born.
>
> And yet the Bible says:
>
> -- King James
> Ezekiel 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father,
> so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall
> die. So your spiritual soul can cease to be. (actually there is no
> spiritual soul)
>
> Just like English has words with more than one meaning, the Hebrew
> word for "soul" also has multiple meanings. For example, a person IS a
> soul. (Gen 2:7) Also, a soul can mean life. So if your soul is leaving
> your body, your life is leaving your body. (Gen 35:18; KJV)
>
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > BOO!! GOTCHA!! Followed by a sinister mocking laugh.
> > >
> > > He won't be laughing when he gets the "second death".
> > > God gave him life, and he repaid by rebelling against his own Creator.
> > > He just committed suicide.
> >
> > And he took you with him. If you should die, without repentance, and
> > salvation,.....well. :(
>
> Notice this Scripture very carefully:
>
> -- New King James
> Proverbs 16:25 There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end
> is the way of death.
>
> That verse is describing either you or me, since we have many opposite
> beliefs. One of us is mostly right, and the other mainly wrong. God
> knows. What is your best Scripture for proof you are right.
>
> This is my best one for me being right. The setting, Jesus has been
> resurrected and is now in Heaven with God: The Apostle Paul then
> writes this:
>
> -- King James
> 1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every
> man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of
> Christ is God.
>
> > >
> > > >
> > > > You do realize that in this life that God established a death penalty
for
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