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   they left and two of them were given a choice. Even though Jesus told them   
   that there was more for them to do.   
   >   
   >   
   > Oh, and also he doesn't close his eyes when he prays. I found that   
   > to be kind of strange.   
      
   Many others do as well, I say that because of several leaders I know do it   
   both ways in public. There is no formula for prayers. After all, in the old   
   days when one presented their case to their kings for consideration, they did   
   so with eyes open when they said, I pray thee Lord so and so.   
   In speaking to God he sees the heart and its intent.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > > If you cared about your life after death, then you should check your   
   > > options.   
   >   
   > I don't care about it strictly because I don't believe it. It's not   
   > as if I saw, it believed it, and decided not to "check my options."   
      
   Yet you cannot deny that you never heard of it. So when you see the reality   
   of it that you won’t be able to say ‘I was never warned’.   
   >   
   >   
   > > Why? Because the default is Hell and then the Lake of Fire.   
   >   
   > The idea of Hell is pure barbarism.   
      
   That too is the thought of those against the death penalty for rape and   
   murder. And the same arguments are made against that. In spite of the fact   
   that these people are often repeat offenders. Now that same thinking is in   
   place in many cities for any crime resulting in Prison time.   
   >   
   >   
   > > If Miracles still occur there must be a reason behind it.   
   >   
   > You're getting ahead of yourself there.   
      
   I disagree, because miracles have been happening for 2K years.   
      
   I know of several deaths brought back to life when it was medically   
   impossible to do. One being a healthy baby in the womb but when Born was born   
   dead. No cord around its neck, etc. They were able to treat the body and   
   recover it, but for 8 days it was unresponsive and the said brain dead. And   
   recommend pulling the plug and after eight days of prayer, etc. it open his   
   eyes, and from there on started acting like a normal child, that was about 6   
   or so years ago, and the child is above his peers in learning and that was   
   observed when he was three as well. Normal in all things.   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > > You wanted proof of a real and current miracle, here is one for   
   you to   
   > > > > > > put   
   > > > > > > on   
   > > > > > > the books, not only the reality of a miracle, but also what he saw   
   and   
   > > > > > > was   
   > > > > > > shown in heaven. So it is all verifiable.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > What you all find hard to believe is that this is the same Jesus   
   that I   
   > > > > > > have   
   > > > > > > been telling you all about, and he experienced an on site   
   visitation   
   > > > > > > with   
   > > > > > > Jesus, as well as the Heavenly Father. His experience proves also   
   what I   
   > > > > > > have   
   > > > > > > experienced, but his was fuller and all in a very short period of   
   time.   
   > > > > > > While   
   > > > > > > mine was a bunch when I was first saved, and then added to in my   
   walk   
   > > > > > > with   
   > > > > > > Jesus, and learned over the years from studying the Bible and   
   talking to   
   > > > > > > God   
   > > > > > > in prayer over the years.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > IOW This is real, how real? Listen and watch him and you can get a   
   taste   
   > > > > > > or   
   > > > > > > dose of reality that will or should astound you.   
      
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