XPost: alt.religion.christian   
   From: .robert@mu.way   
      
   On Oct 26, 2025, James wrote   
   (Message-ID:):   
      
   > Heaven: Not all righteous one's destination.   
   > James   
   > October 26, 2025 at 10:24:40 AM PDT   
   >   
   > On Sat, 25 Oct 2025 13:43:03 -0700, Robert <.robert@mu.way> wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Oct 25, 2025, James wrote   
   > > (Message-ID:):   
   > >   
   > > > Heaven: Not all righteous one's destination.   
   > > >   
   > > > Do you believe when you die you go to Heaven? That's the goal the   
   > > > churches teach. But that is not what the Bible teaches.   
   > > >   
   > > > In the OT, where did Moses and Abraham and Jeremiah, etc go right when   
   > > > they died?   
   > > > If you say Heaven, you are wrong.   
   > >   
   > > Before the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ they all went to Sheol,   
   > > the abode of the underworld,   
   >   
   > In other words "hell" (the grave)   
   >   
   > And they remain in the grave until the resurrection of Acts 24:15.   
   >   
   > So be careful of those who preach different teachings:   
      
   Act 24:15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that   
   there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.   
      
   The following is the reality of that which was prophesied in V15 above. The   
   final resurrection which is of all the just and unjust as well as the   
   outcomes of that for their final dwelling places.   
      
   Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the   
   books were opened: and another book was opened, which isthe book of life: and   
   the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books,   
   according to their works.   
      
   Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell   
   delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man   
   according to their works.   
      
   Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the   
   second death.   
      
   Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast   
   into the lake of fire.   
      
   You can twist n dance all you want in this life, but in the next you without   
   Christ in your heart will never be able to stop and take a breather according   
   to the “REAL TRUTH” of God, not the ’true’ truths of your own making.   
   As you have confessed to recently in quite a few of your posts.   
      
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   >   
   > - New King James   
   > Acts 20:30 "Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking   
   > perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves.   
   >   
   > > both from those that will be going to the lake of   
   > > Fire at the time of the second death, and on the other side of a great   
   chasm,   
   > > the location of Paradise, a holding place for all those who will be going   
   to   
   > > heaven once the Lord Jesus Christ redeemed them as the sacrificed Lamb of   
   > > God.   
   >   
   > There is no "holding place" other than those awaiting the Acts 24:15   
   > resurrection.   
      
   Yes, and that is Hades Where you cannot stop dancing because of the hot coals   
   under your feet. No rest for the wicked.   
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   > >   
   > > The self-righteous will never attain heaven.   
   >   
   > Only 144,000 will go to Heaven. These are Jesus sheep who know Jesus   
   > and Jesus knows them. But Jesus has "other sheep". Let me repeat that,   
   > he has OTHER SHEEP not of the same fold as the 144,000. (John 10:16)   
      
   You deceive and as a result tell a lie, not a one of them is a JW for they   
   are clearly designated as jewish young men, 12K from each tribe of Israel.   
      
   Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed:and there were   
   sealed an hundred and fortyand four thousand of all the tribes of the   
   children of Israel.   
      
   Rev 7:5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of   
   Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve   
   thousand.   
      
   Rev 7:6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of   
   Nepthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed   
   twelve thousand.   
      
   Rev 7:7 Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of   
   Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve   
   thousand.   
      
   Rev 7:8 Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of   
   Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed   
   twelve thousand.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > Thus there are TWO classes of righteous ones, according to Jesus. One   
   > to live forever in Heaven, and one to live forever on the earth. (see   
   > Mt 5:5 and Jesus words for the earth ones)   
      
   Psalms 37:11 But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight   
   themselves in the abundance of peace.   
      
   This is what Jesus was referencing in that verse. And anyone can see that   
   according to the Scriptures that those who dwell on this earth will never see   
   that kind of peace.   
      
   At the end of the 1,000 year reign of Jesus Satan will be loosed from the   
   Bottomless pit and go around the world gathering up all those who were   
   opposed to the reign of the King of Israel at that time, which is Jesus, to   
   war against him in the final armageddon battle.   
      
   Jesus will not be the patsy you paint him out to be and he will destroy all   
   of them, as they will have outed themselves, just like you do here. Jesus   
   also, when he returns to earth the first time to rule on earth for those   
   1,000 years will not only save all that remains of the Israelites and then   
   rule the earth, but He kill and destroy all those who have taken the mark of   
   the beast and toss them into the Lake of Fire   
      
   This is the warning given to all men left on earth after the Great   
   Tribulation started.   
      
   Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and   
   they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and   
   whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.   
      
   And these scriptures speak of those people at the end of the GT, the beast   
   and false prophet were instantly tossed into the Lake of Fire, (note) ALIVE!   
   The rest later with all the other sinners. And their bodies became a bird   
   food feast.   
      
   Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that   
   wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received   
   the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were   
   cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.   
      
   Rev 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the   
   horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled   
   with their flesh.   
      
   There is the Judgmental actions of Jesus Christ. That you and many other   
   deceived people pretend that is not the real Jesus. Who deceived you? And   
   since you claim to believe all the Bible why do you willingly deceive your   
   own self, as the words of God obviously show your errors.   
      
   And to answer your question again, YES, I DO BELIEVE in another God than do   
      
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