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   > Hell supposedly lasts forever, not 10 days. And when was Samson,   
   > specifically, tortured for much longer? In that folk tale, don't they   
   > just put out his eyes?   
      
   Yes. But that was not hell I was speaking of. It is torture that you   
   mentioned, that was somehow limited in time and scope. Or did you forget your   
   premise just made above?   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > When bad things happen to bad people, it is called karma by many, and   
   > > > > others feel it is well justified.   
   > > > > There is nothing on this earth that can ease the torment that a child   
   has   
   > > > > from suffering sexual abuse, and all their lives they live with the   
   > > > > effects   
   > > > > of it. Same with other crimes against humanity. How much suffering does   
   > > > > the   
   > > > > offender deserve? Especially when a simple death sentence does not   
   restore   
   > > > > the abused, nor would it lessen the Childs pain throughout their life   
   by   
   > > > > knowing the offender was paying a lifetime sentence. Something to think   
   > > > > about.   
   > > >   
   > > > You seem to have forgotten about when bad things happen to good   
   > > > people, or when good things happen to bad people -- a failure of   
   > > > karma. Now, how many *years* of fiendish torture in the fires of Hell   
   > > > do you believe are necessary when dealing with child molesters?   
   > >   
   > > I leave that in Gods hands and His wisdom. I know and understand the   
   why’s   
   > > of the first part of your paragraph.   
   >   
   > LOL! You bet you should leave it there, since you yourself have no   
   > answer for it.   
      
   Why should I have an answer for it, it is in Gods hands and for his purposes.   
   I understand some of those things but there is no way I or anyone on earth   
   can discuss it with others as they would just keep on with endless questions   
   for no reason other than to find a point where you can’t explain it and   
   claim “GOTCHA’ and use that as some excuse to rationalize all proper   
   thing before it, away, as it if was unjustified.   
      
   God has all the answers, and he can answer you to your needs in such a way as   
   you can be satisfied..   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > > > > If Miracles still occur there must be a reason behind it.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > You're getting ahead of yourself there.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > I disagree, because miracles have been happening for 2K years.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Because your YouTube videos told you so?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > That is a ridiculous slam.   
   > > >   
   > > > What sources do you use besides YouTube, that lead you to believe   
   > > > miracles have been happening for 2K years (should be 6K, but, then   
   > > > those are your beliefs, not mine)?   
   > >   
   > > Well the miracles during the times of Israel happened and were known of WW.   
   > > They were somewhat limited because of the Law Covenant, the NT is a new,   
   > > different, and better covenant.   
   >   
   > So the first covenant was a mistake by God? And there were no miracles   
   > in ancient Israel known "world wide".   
      
   I thought you said you knew the Bible? It was not the plan that God desired   
   for them, and the people were very fearful of God and told Moses, “You   
   handle it”. And so it was a negotiated covenant.   
   As to miracles known world wide, at that point in time the known world was   
   small. And yes, those around them knew of them. Some coming to seek healings,   
   other to join in with them, but many haters.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > > There are recorded miracles throughout the centuries, some fake, but the   
   > > believers recorded enough real ones throughout history. Before You Tube use   
   > > of videos of real events people saw them with their own eyes. Telling   
   others.   
   > > In the Jesus movement there were many reporting, via the ministry of Oral   
   > > Roberts and many others there was many, same with Kathryn Kuhlman. And   
   > > others since then.   
   >   
   > The prosperity gospel is rubbish.   
      
   None of that was “prosperity gospel”.   
   >   
   >   
   > > But the best is soon to come and is already on its way.   
   >   
   > Why isn't it here now?   
      
   It is, and it is picking up world wide. Even mentioned in part by that young   
   man.   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > > I know of several deaths brought back to life when it was medically   
   > > > > > > impossible to do. One being a healthy baby in the womb but when   
   Born was   
   > > > > > > born dead. No cord around its neck, etc. They were able to treat   
   the   
   > > > > > > body   
   > > > > > > and   
   > > > > > > recover it, but for 8 days it was unresponsive and the said brain   
   dead.   
   > > > > > > And   
   > > > > > > recommend pulling the plug and after eight days of prayer, etc. it   
   open   
   > > > > > > his   
   > > > > > > eyes, and from there on started acting like a normal child, that   
   was   
   > > > > > > about 6   
   > > > > > > or so years ago, and the child is above his peers in learning and   
   that   
   > > > > > > was   
   > > > > > > observed when he was three as well. Normal in all things.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > LOL! Cite? Or is this another one of your YouTube videos? And yet so   
   > > > > > many babies are still-born or are involved in a miscarriage, that   
   it's   
   > > > > > clear that there is no heavenly being protecting these young lives.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > See there the mocking and accusations? I knew the family.   
   > > >   
   > > > Did you know the other families as well? And what was the name of the   
   > > > family you described above?   
   > >   
   > > Because they are already public knowledge, Duane Sheriff, who had an NDE   
   and   
   > > one of his grandsons was the child I was speaking of.   
   >   
   > When and where did the NDE occur? And what about the "other   
   > families"?   
      
   Both of them were in Arkansas, although Duane has since moved to Texas, and   
   his son has taken over in Arkansas.   
   Search them to find the reports. The other families I don’t know if they   
   made it public. And so I would not want to create issues for them   
      
   >   
   >   
   > > > In general, you need to read up on OBEs.   
   > > >   
   > > > From   
   > > >   
   > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-body_experience#OBE_theories   
   > > >   
   > > > "Terence Hines (2003) has written that spontaneous out-of-body   
   > > > experiences can be generated by artificial stimulation of the brain   
   > > > and this strongly suggests that the OBE is caused by "temporary, minor   
   > > > brain malfunctions, not by the person's spirit actually leaving the   
   > > > body."[73] In a study review of neurological and neurocognitive data,   
   > > > Bünning and Blanke (2005) wrote that OBEs are due to "functional   
   > > > disintegration of lower-level multisensory processing and abnormal   
   > > > higher-level self-processing at the temporoparietal junction."[74]   
   > > > Some scientists suspect that OBEs are the result of a mismatch between   
   > > > visual and tactile signals.[75][76]”   
   > > I am familiar with OOBE’s. Witches Warlocks have them on one level. And   
   > > Christian Believers also have them. They are all spiritual. Both the evil   
   as   
   > > well as the Godly.   
   >   
   > No, they're a result of brain activity, as described above.   
      
   You didn’t read it very well. "and this strongly suggests that the OBE is   
   caused by "temporary, minor   
   brain malfunctions, not by the person's spirit actually leaving the body.”   
      
   That does little to support a fixed conclusion. Especially when the Witches   
   and warlocks describe what they saw and where they have been in spite of   
   never having been there physically, ever. And That is all in respect to the   
   realities of this world, which can be proven and verified by anyone.   
      
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