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   Message 94,708 of 96,161   
   Robert to Mitchell Holman   
   Re: I died and went to heaven for 18 day   
   27 Oct 25 17:25:13   
   
   XPost: alt.atheism   
   From: .robert@mu.way   
      
   On Oct 26, 2025, Mitchell Holman wrote   
   (Message-ID: ):   
      
   > Robert <.robert@mu.way>  wrote in news:10dkd83$3qrpf$1@dont-email.me:   
   >   
   > > On Oct 25, 2025, Vincent Maycock wrote   
   > > (Message-ID:<3i2rfkps03pue5omk1oo5jqdm1cgfgs7as@4ax.com>):   
   > >   
   > > > There is insufficient evidence to constitute being "warned."   
   > >   
   > > Not at all, because someone ignores it and acts all indifferent to a   
   > > warning because they did not feel any imminent threat or danger does   
   > > not dismiss or diminish the warning. Noah warned men of the impending   
   > > flood for 120 years as he and his family built the ark. All he got was   
   > > jeers, mocking, etc. but when he got into the ark and sealed the doors   
   > > and then there came rain and it did not stop. You can bet people   
   > > changed their minds.   
   >   
   > 1) Genesis makes no record of warning   
   > any men of the Flood.   
      
   Whoever you are quoting is correct. Although your quoted statement is   
   incorrect, why?   
      
   Gen 6:13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for   
   the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy   
   them with the earth.   
      
   So Noah was warned and by default his family as well.   
      
   I took some time to study the scriptures on this and found that the ark was   
   designed solely for Noah and his families as well as the animals specified.   
   The earth and its people were so corrupted by that time that God was thinking   
   of destroying it all.   
      
   Gen 6:11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with   
   violence.   
      
   Gen 6:12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all   
   flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.   
      
   It is well known the nature of God who sends his people to warn others of   
   impending doom as well as the ways of righteousness.   
      
   There was a list of the genealogy from Adam to Noah of righteous ones, Men   
   who stayed faithful to God, and obviously shared their beliefs with those   
   around them. It can also be assumed that those who see their own pleasure   
   renounce God and the people that represent him. Which is obviously recorded   
   by men down to this very day, all the righteous men died before the flood,   
   save Noah and his family because of Noah.   
      
   So I erred in that statement, and I apologize for it.   
      
   > 2) Genesis makes no record of any   
   > men jeering at Noah.   
      
   True, it was not recorded. For not being clear on that it is my fault, and I   
   apologize for it.   
      
   It is safe to assume that they did. As men ever since the fall of man have   
   treated any peoples of God in that manner. As is also evidenced here by most   
   of you all, as well as many men on the Street.   
      
   No one could dispute that.   
      
   >   
   > 3) Genesis makes no record of building   
   > the ark taking 120 years.   
      
   Correct, and the reason being that those years was associated with the time   
   of the shortening of the lifetime of man. Erroneously.   
      
   A study of scripture suggests as little as 20-25 years to 45 years, and an   
   outside chance of near 100.   
      
   I would now suggest between 20-45 years for realities sake.   
      
   So I apologize for that and I learned something new that I never paid that   
   much attention too.   
   >   
   >   
   > 4) Why do you lie about the Bible so much?   
      
   I would not call it a lie or lies, yet I was wrong for not having paid   
   focused attention to that and I appreciated you quoting the statements of   
   others.   
      
   One lie is too much, period.   
      
   So what is the take away from all of this? And my focused study on it? I will   
   have to ponder if until ir receive an answer from the Lord. The word of God   
   states,..   
      
   Isa 57:16 For I will not contend for ever, neither will I be always wroth:   
   for the spirit should fail before me, and the soulswhich I have made.   
      
   Isa 57:20 But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest,   
   whose waters cast up mire and dirt.   
      
   Isa 57:21 There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked.   
      
   And this backs up what was written in Genesis regarding Noah, the Flood, etc.   
   Since Noah and family were saved. Without room made for the possibility of   
   others.   
      
   Jesus also passed on those who blew him off on his time on earth to seek   
   others who would accept him. His heart was open to all those who were open to   
   Him.   
      
   So why waste words with those that have insisted and haven proven them selves   
   to be purposely ignoring God. When the “Rapture” Comes there will be   
   immediate destruction following. Which the word describes. Many will be   
   caught with there pants down. And no one knows the day or the hour that will   
   happen. Not even Jesus.   
      
   --   
      
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