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   Message 94,710 of 96,161   
   James to None   
   Re: God's Personal Name: What is it? (3/   
   27 Oct 25 21:01:29   
   
   [continued from previous message]   
      
   The Tetragrammaton is found in the OT oldest scrolls around 7000   
   times. Most ALL translations CUT IT OUT, AND REPLACED IT WITH "LORD"   
   OR "GOD".   
      
   Why aren't you complaining about that to the translators. They could   
   easily put it back. BUT THEY CENTURED IT FOR YOU. I prefer to do my   
   own censuring. But know what complains about it. They just accept was   
   the translators write down.   
      
   > Not the JW org as you recently   
   >posted, but specifically your ’truth’.   
      
   And 'my truth' is the Bible's truth. Nothing else.   
      
   >   
   >SO, if you feed others lies to placate them that is just what satan does, and   
   >you imitate him since you do not have the faith to practice what you believe.   
      
   I feed people Bible truths, like Jesus is NOT God. (1 Cor 11:3)   
      
   >You cannot deny that you feed others what you believe to be a lie.   
      
   I fully deny false statements, like I do yours.   
      
   And if   
   >this seems harsh, just remember I am pointing out your own arguments that by   
   >the use of those arguments you are bound by your own words.   
      
   Absolutely. Only hypocrites teach one thing, but do another.   
      
   >Either follow   
   >them for the rest of your life or be known publicly known as a hypocrite to   
   >the JW religion. For that is how you have been behaving for as long as I have   
   >known you.   
      
   The JW's are the true religion which you will soon find out.   
   At that time you will tell Jesus, 'I called you Lord, Lord, and did   
   many things in your name'. And Jesus will say, 'get away from me you   
   lawbreaker'.   
      
   What Jesus meant was you didn't really go by the Bible. You copied   
   church teachings which are diseased teachings, that bring about   
   spiritual diseases.   
      
   A good example is not complaining to translators that they chopped out   
   God's name out of His book. We have corrected those disgusting errors,   
   all almost 7000 of them. I challenge you to find even 1000 errors in   
   the NWT.   
      
      
   >   
   >Why try to run a con game on everyone?   
      
   That's a good analogy about the churches. They make you think you can   
   buy your way to Heaven, or out of hellfire. Their turn is coming.   
      
   Here is something you may not know. ALL FALSE RELIGION (THE CHURCHES   
   AND OTHERS) WILL FALL BEFORE THE GREAT TRIBULATION COMES. So when you   
   see that happen, know the end is upon you.   
      
   I of course wish you can see and understand these Bible verses, since   
   in your own Bibles there are many truths.   
      
   >>   
   >>   
   >> >   
   >> > Gen 2:4 Yehovah-Elohim. First occurrence of this compound name.   
   >>   
   >> Negatrons. They have the Tetragramaton there so:   
   >>   
   >> (Genesis 2:4) This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the   
   >> time they were created, in the day that Jehovah God made earth and   
   >> heaven.(NWT)   
   >   
   >Snipped you goal shifting comments.   
   >   
   >I was quoting to you from the original greek, not from any version of an   
   >English bible. That puts us on even ground.   
      
   That's not the oldest Greek copies. The oldest Greek Septuagint is   
   centuries older than yours. It contained the   
   Tetragrammaton as 4 Hebrew letters, which made it stand out among all   
   the Greek letters.   
      
   >   
   >>   
   >> > For other Jehovah compound names see Gen 15:2; Gen 15:8; Gen 22:8, +**Exo   
   15:26 note.   
   >> > Exo 17:15; Exo 20:2; Exo 31:13, Jdg 6:24, 1Sa 1:3, Psa 7:17; Psa 23:1; Psa   
   >> > 95:6; Psa 99:5, Jer 23:6, Ezk 48:35, Zec 14:5.   
   >> >   
   >> > The sum of which points out all the other such similar errors of the NWT.   
   >   
   >>   
   >> Not at all. Some Bible scholars praised the NWT for its accuracy.   
   >> Either all of them only have kindergarten diplomas, or the NWT really   
   >> is accurate.   
   >   
   >That has already been very publicly disproven.   
      
   Nonsense. These were highly qualified Bible scholars at the time of   
   their praises. One of them also translated his own Bible!  Edgar   
   Johnson Goodspeed, "An American Translation". He said:   
      
      
   “I am interested in the mission work of your people, and its world   
   wide scope, and much pleased with the free, frank and vigorous   
   translation. It exhibits a vast array of sound serious learning, as I   
   can testify."   
      
   >>   
   >> > And while we are on that point it should be pointed out that there is   
   >> > another form of his name, that being this.   
   >> >   
   >> > ??????? ‘a?do?na?y   
   >> >   
   >> > ad-o-noy’   
   >> >   
   >> > An emphatic form of H113; the Lord (used as a proper name of God only): -   
   >> > (my) Lord.   
   >> >   
   >> > Why do you never mention that?   
   >>   
   >> Why don't you mention the FACT that most modern translations have   
   >> REMOVED THE TETRAGRAMMATON from their translations, and inserted Lord   
   >> or God. THAT'S AROUND 7000 ERRORS TO START WITH.   
   >   
   >I have told you publicly many times that the greek does not have any of those   
   >words in them. And done so many times, even showing you the proof of that as   
   >well using the LXX Bible as written by the priests of the Israelites 300   
   >years before the days of Jesus.   
      
   And I have showed you a fragment of the Septuagint, the 2nd half of   
   Deuteronomy, that outdates your copy by about 5 centuries, and which   
   contained the Tetragrammaton in Hebrew letters.   
   >   
   >I also have openly and publicly deplored the Generic terms in the OT decades   
   >before the existence of the NWT as well as its predecessor that the most   
   >publicly used English bibles used.and referred to the early English bibles   
   >well before the KJV. The translators of which were condemned, persecuted and   
   >killed by the RCC and burned all their translations that they could find.   
   >Even in the case of one translator they killed, and abused his dead body of   
   >years. Via various exhumations etc, until his body was or bones were cut up   
   >and tossed into the sea.   
      
   You lost me here. What are you saying?   
      
   >>   
   >>   
   >> If People wanted God's name to be removed, they would have told them.   
   >> But those translators are being your censures of the Bible.   
   >   
   >Obviously you have no knowledge of the history of translations, the why’s   
   >and what for’s surrounding it. Yet in the end, as I have said many times,   
   >we have as born again believers the promise of the Holy Spirit who will lead   
   >us into all truth for those that have and walk by faith in Jesus Christ. He I   
   >the one who passed on the word from God to man. Who better knows the truth of   
   >God? Not me, not you, nor any man.   
      
   Well you need to be corrected again. Those "born again" are the   
   Heavenly class who rule with Jesus in Heaven over the earth.   
      
   If you say the Holy Spirit is guiding you, and so do we, obviously we   
   both can't be right. Have you checked the source of your Spirit?   
   Notice:   
      
   -- New King James   
   1 John 4:1  Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the   
   spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have   
   gone out into the world.   
      
   Paul is telling us that it is hard to see the difference of the two   
   until you TEST it. Because:   
      
   -- New King James   
   Proverbs 16:25  There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end   
   is the way of death.   
      
   >   
   >And none, absolutely none, of the translators of Bibles were mine. And the   
   >one I trust the absolute most is God. I depend upon him to enlighten me as do   
   >many, many other believers.   
   >   
   >Pro 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own   
   >understanding.   
   >   
   >Pro 3:6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.   
   >   
   >Pro 3:7 Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.   
      
   Right on.   
      
   >   
   >>   
   >> I prefer to do my own censuring.   
   >   
   >No kidding. Like duh, ;) You and AI.   
      
   And you let agenda driven translators tell you what to read.   
   Remember the number 7000.   
      
   "LEARN FROM JESUS   
   There Will Be World Peace   
   Learn More". See jw.org (10/27/2025)   
      
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Sincerely James   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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