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   Message 94,721 of 96,161   
   Vincent Maycock to Robert   
   Re: I died and went to heaven for 18 day   
   27 Oct 25 22:50:43   
   
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   >away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I   
   >depart, I will send him unto you.   
      
   What's the difference between needing a comforter after Jesus left,   
   and needing a comforter *before Jesus allegedly* came to earth to   
   begin with?   
      
   >Jhn 16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of   
   >righteousness, and of judgment:   
      
   What do you suppose this means?  I mean, I can use the NIV to get a   
   good sense of what's being said here, but can you with your KJV tell   
   us what it means to "reprove the world of sin"?   
      
   >> > > > > > > *he denigrates women by saying God is more like a man than a   
   woman   
   >> > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > Then you could also make that point from the Bible in the book of   
   >> > > > > > Genesis.   
   >> > > > > > Within the first three chapters. Why? Because God made man in His   
   Image.   
   >> > > > > > The   
   >> > > > > > woman he cloned from Adam, for Adams sake, Eve was made bone of   
   his   
   >> > > > > > bone,   
   >> > > > > > flesh of his flesh. Separate.   
   >> > > > >   
   >> > > > > If Eve had been a clone of Adam, Eve would've been a male.   
   >> > > > > Furthermore, there's nothing wrong with being separate. There *is*   
   >> > > > > something wrong with being inferior, which is how Gabe refers to   
   >> > > > > feminine attributes.   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > Adam was cloned for a purpose and with a purpose. To procreate, and a   
   >> > > > helpmate.   
   >> > > > I didn’t personally see him denigrate women or call them inferior. I   
   am   
   >> > > > curious as to what part of the video that was in.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > At about 11:00 minutes in he says, "He's not feminine; he's not soft;   
   >> > > he's not even nice. Sid, he doesn't play games -- he's a man. He   
   >> > > means what he says."   
   >> >   
   >> > I have told my kids when they were young that Jesus was buff. After all,   
   he   
   >> > grew up as a carpenter.   
   >> > He overturned the tables of money changers, etc. in the temple of His   
   Father.   
   >> > Yes, he means what he says, he is no wimp, and it will be Him who judges   
   all   
   >> > men.   
   >>   
   >> Sounds like an interesting fantasy world you've got there, but it has   
   >> nothing to do with Jesus not having any feminine attributes.   
   >   
   >What are feminine attributes? Love? Man have that, Nurturing? Men have that.   
   >Compassion, Men have that, it is integrated into the hearts of men. Ever see   
   >firemen and or policeman cry? See the horror on their faces as they hold a   
   >dying child or greatly injured child? Ever see or hear of a cop showing   
   >empathy towards adults who were at the end of their rope? I have.   
      
   Maybe you should tell Gabe that, given that he seems to think that   
   someone who meant what they say or avoid playing games could not be a   
   woman.  I don't know how he would react to crying cops, but remember   
   that he says Jesus is not feminine.   
      
   >So I don’t understand where you are coming from. Men were created in the   
   >image of God, with all of his attributes, but in the realm of this world. We   
   >were created less than the angels. Within us is the female DNA, as it were.   
   >Typically, females have two X chromosomes, while males have one X and one Y   
   >chromosome. So obviously men had with in them the same attributes as women of   
   >the 23 pairs of Chromosomes except for the pair that determined the male of   
   >female bodily differences. And she was cloned as such so as to me a helpmate   
   >to man.   
      
   Again, a clone could not be a different sex from what it's being   
   cloned from.  So if Eve was a clone of Adam, she would have to be a   
   male.   
      
   >> > > So what's wrong with being soft or nice? And are women prone to   
   >> > > "playing games", more so then men? Do women not mean what they say?   
   >> >   
   >> > He also is Love. PURE Love, and he knows what the intent of our heart is.   
   >> > Thank you for your honestly in your reply, and what you described was your   
   >> > own thoughts.   
   >> > I would never have thought that, and there is no reason for anyone to.   
   >>   
   >> What are you talking about?   
   >   
   >Reflecting on your comment. As I cannot see your point made, nor your   
   >reasoning there.   
      
   Maybe you should reflect a little more before you post.   
      
   >> > I was rough and tough, in this life, yet with women, and children I was   
   >> > gentle and kind, Karen’s were given another chance ;) but if they   
   persisted   
   >> > I would let them be. I would be understanding with men as well when they   
   >> > were   
   >> > genuinely going through a rough time. But not with whiners, wimps, or   
   >> > bullies of others. So I guess my outlook was a lot different than yours.   
   >>   
   >> Do you think women are wimps?   
   >   
   >Some are, but what is your point?   
      
   I'm trying to determine whether you share Gabe's evident belief that   
   women are somehow less than men.  Some women are wimps, but as a rule   
   do they tend to be wimps, in your view?   
      
   >> > > > > > > *he refers to Revelation as Revelations, a common mistake by   
   people   
   >> > > > > > > unfamiliar with the Bible   
   >> > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > It is a book of revelations. Yet the books title is the ’Book of   
   >> > > > > > Revelation’. I too have made that same mistake many times.   
   >> > > > >   
   >> > > > > Why do you keep making the same mistake? Don't you know it makes you   
   >> > > > > sound uneducated?   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > Perhaps because I see the different revelations that were made in the   
   >> > > > book.   
   >> > > > As to desire to be sounding educated, whatever that means. It is not   
   in my   
   >> > > > bag. I am so used to explaining things in a form to help others see   
   what   
   >> > > > is   
   >> > > > going on without the use of technical language, so they can understand   
   >> > > > clearly, for a variety of reasons that I just do not think about such   
   >> > > > things,   
   >> > > > and when I am called upon to speak a different jargon I find I have to   
   >> > > > refresh my mind to do so. For whatever reason I had a flashback to a   
   >> > > > seminar   
   >> > > > about 50+ years ago where there was nothing but highly educated people   
   >> > > > there.   
   >> > > > All spoke with words that were specific to the subject, so that   
   everything   
   >> > > > was clear, succinct, and focused. I was blown away, it was like music   
   to   
   >> > > > me   
   >> > > > ears since it was a number of years since I was with a group of people   
   >> > > > like   
   >> > > > that.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > Referring to the book as Revelations does not add to clarity of   
   exposition.   
   >> >   
   >> > Shrug.   
   >> > >   
   >> > >   
   >> > > > > > > *he refers to the Flood as being a historical event, when modern   
   >> > > > > > > geology has concluded that it never occurred   
   >> > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > https://biblicalscienceinstitute.com/geology/overvi   
   w-of-geologic-eviden   
   >> > > > > > ce   
   >> > > > > > -of-the-flood/   
   >> > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > Geologists know how limestone is formed. That fact alone bears   
   heavily   
   >> > > > > > in   
   >> > > > > > the   
   >> > > > > > fact that the earth was fully covered with water, plus the fact   
   that   
   >> > > > > > there   
   >> > > > > > were animals and fish found deeply embedded in limestone in the   
   >> > > > > > Himalayas   
   >> > > > > > as   
   >> > > > > > well as in Louisiana, all around the earth. The dinosaur prints   
   along   
   >> > > > > > with   
   >> > > > > > human prints inside the footprints of the dinosaurs and then the   
   >> > > > > > limestone   
   >> > > > > > hardened for a permanent ‘mold’ in Louisiana and elsewhere   
   disturbed   
   >> > > > > > the   
   >> > > > > > thinking of evolutionist the evidence of which I posted over 40   
   years   
   >> > > > > > ago.   
   >> > > > >   
   >> > > > > Try   
   >> > > > >   
   >> > > > > "Twenty-one Reasons Noah’s Worldwide Flood Never   
   >> > > > > Happened" from   
   >> > > > >   
      
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