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|    Vincent Maycock to Robert    |
|    Re: I died and went to heaven for 18 day    |
|    27 Oct 25 22:50:43    |
      [continued from previous message]              >away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I       >depart, I will send him unto you.              What's the difference between needing a comforter after Jesus left,       and needing a comforter *before Jesus allegedly* came to earth to       begin with?              >Jhn 16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of       >righteousness, and of judgment:              What do you suppose this means? I mean, I can use the NIV to get a       good sense of what's being said here, but can you with your KJV tell       us what it means to "reprove the world of sin"?              >> > > > > > > *he denigrates women by saying God is more like a man than a       woman       >> > > > > >       >> > > > > > Then you could also make that point from the Bible in the book of       >> > > > > > Genesis.       >> > > > > > Within the first three chapters. Why? Because God made man in His       Image.       >> > > > > > The       >> > > > > > woman he cloned from Adam, for Adams sake, Eve was made bone of       his       >> > > > > > bone,       >> > > > > > flesh of his flesh. Separate.       >> > > > >       >> > > > > If Eve had been a clone of Adam, Eve would've been a male.       >> > > > > Furthermore, there's nothing wrong with being separate. There *is*       >> > > > > something wrong with being inferior, which is how Gabe refers to       >> > > > > feminine attributes.       >> > > >       >> > > > Adam was cloned for a purpose and with a purpose. To procreate, and a       >> > > > helpmate.       >> > > > I didn’t personally see him denigrate women or call them inferior. I       am       >> > > > curious as to what part of the video that was in.       >> > >       >> > > At about 11:00 minutes in he says, "He's not feminine; he's not soft;       >> > > he's not even nice. Sid, he doesn't play games -- he's a man. He       >> > > means what he says."       >> >       >> > I have told my kids when they were young that Jesus was buff. After all,       he       >> > grew up as a carpenter.       >> > He overturned the tables of money changers, etc. in the temple of His       Father.       >> > Yes, he means what he says, he is no wimp, and it will be Him who judges       all       >> > men.       >>       >> Sounds like an interesting fantasy world you've got there, but it has       >> nothing to do with Jesus not having any feminine attributes.       >       >What are feminine attributes? Love? Man have that, Nurturing? Men have that.       >Compassion, Men have that, it is integrated into the hearts of men. Ever see       >firemen and or policeman cry? See the horror on their faces as they hold a       >dying child or greatly injured child? Ever see or hear of a cop showing       >empathy towards adults who were at the end of their rope? I have.              Maybe you should tell Gabe that, given that he seems to think that       someone who meant what they say or avoid playing games could not be a       woman. I don't know how he would react to crying cops, but remember       that he says Jesus is not feminine.              >So I don’t understand where you are coming from. Men were created in the       >image of God, with all of his attributes, but in the realm of this world. We       >were created less than the angels. Within us is the female DNA, as it were.       >Typically, females have two X chromosomes, while males have one X and one Y       >chromosome. So obviously men had with in them the same attributes as women of       >the 23 pairs of Chromosomes except for the pair that determined the male of       >female bodily differences. And she was cloned as such so as to me a helpmate       >to man.              Again, a clone could not be a different sex from what it's being       cloned from. So if Eve was a clone of Adam, she would have to be a       male.              >> > > So what's wrong with being soft or nice? And are women prone to       >> > > "playing games", more so then men? Do women not mean what they say?       >> >       >> > He also is Love. PURE Love, and he knows what the intent of our heart is.       >> > Thank you for your honestly in your reply, and what you described was your       >> > own thoughts.       >> > I would never have thought that, and there is no reason for anyone to.       >>       >> What are you talking about?       >       >Reflecting on your comment. As I cannot see your point made, nor your       >reasoning there.              Maybe you should reflect a little more before you post.              >> > I was rough and tough, in this life, yet with women, and children I was       >> > gentle and kind, Karen’s were given another chance ;) but if they       persisted       >> > I would let them be. I would be understanding with men as well when they       >> > were       >> > genuinely going through a rough time. But not with whiners, wimps, or       >> > bullies of others. So I guess my outlook was a lot different than yours.       >>       >> Do you think women are wimps?       >       >Some are, but what is your point?              I'm trying to determine whether you share Gabe's evident belief that       women are somehow less than men. Some women are wimps, but as a rule       do they tend to be wimps, in your view?              >> > > > > > > *he refers to Revelation as Revelations, a common mistake by       people       >> > > > > > > unfamiliar with the Bible       >> > > > > >       >> > > > > > It is a book of revelations. Yet the books title is the ’Book of       >> > > > > > Revelation’. I too have made that same mistake many times.       >> > > > >       >> > > > > Why do you keep making the same mistake? Don't you know it makes you       >> > > > > sound uneducated?       >> > > >       >> > > > Perhaps because I see the different revelations that were made in the       >> > > > book.       >> > > > As to desire to be sounding educated, whatever that means. It is not       in my       >> > > > bag. I am so used to explaining things in a form to help others see       what       >> > > > is       >> > > > going on without the use of technical language, so they can understand       >> > > > clearly, for a variety of reasons that I just do not think about such       >> > > > things,       >> > > > and when I am called upon to speak a different jargon I find I have to       >> > > > refresh my mind to do so. For whatever reason I had a flashback to a       >> > > > seminar       >> > > > about 50+ years ago where there was nothing but highly educated people       >> > > > there.       >> > > > All spoke with words that were specific to the subject, so that       everything       >> > > > was clear, succinct, and focused. I was blown away, it was like music       to       >> > > > me       >> > > > ears since it was a number of years since I was with a group of people       >> > > > like       >> > > > that.       >> > >       >> > > Referring to the book as Revelations does not add to clarity of       exposition.       >> >       >> > Shrug.       >> > >       >> > >       >> > > > > > > *he refers to the Flood as being a historical event, when modern       >> > > > > > > geology has concluded that it never occurred       >> > > > > >       >> > > > > > https://biblicalscienceinstitute.com/geology/overvi       w-of-geologic-eviden       >> > > > > > ce       >> > > > > > -of-the-flood/       >> > > > > >       >> > > > > > Geologists know how limestone is formed. That fact alone bears       heavily       >> > > > > > in       >> > > > > > the       >> > > > > > fact that the earth was fully covered with water, plus the fact       that       >> > > > > > there       >> > > > > > were animals and fish found deeply embedded in limestone in the       >> > > > > > Himalayas       >> > > > > > as       >> > > > > > well as in Louisiana, all around the earth. The dinosaur prints       along       >> > > > > > with       >> > > > > > human prints inside the footprints of the dinosaurs and then the       >> > > > > > limestone       >> > > > > > hardened for a permanent ‘mold’ in Louisiana and elsewhere       disturbed       >> > > > > > the       >> > > > > > thinking of evolutionist the evidence of which I posted over 40       years       >> > > > > > ago.       >> > > > >       >> > > > > Try       >> > > > >       >> > > > > "Twenty-one Reasons Noah’s Worldwide Flood Never       >> > > > > Happened" from       >> > > > >              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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