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   From: .robert@mu.way   
      
   On Oct 27, 2025, Vincent Maycock wrote   
   (Message-ID:):   
      
   > On Mon, 27 Oct 2025 15:51:31 -0700, Robert<.robert@mu.way>  wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Oct 27, 2025, Vincent Maycock wrote   
   > > (Message-ID:):   
   > >   
   > > > On Sun, 26 Oct 2025 23:43:23 -0700, Robert<.robert@mu.way>  wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > > On Oct 26, 2025, Vincent Maycock wrote   
   > > > > (Message-ID:):   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > On Sat, 25 Oct 2025 22:57:24 -0700, Robert<.robert@mu.way>  wrote:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > On Oct 25, 2025, Vincent Maycock wrote   
   > > > > > > (Message-ID:<3i2rfkps03pue5omk1oo5jqdm1cgfgs7as@4ax.com>):   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > On Sat, 25 Oct 2025 16:51:16 -0700, Robert<.robert@mu.way>    
   wrote:   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > On Oct 25, 2025, Vincent Maycock wrote   
   > > > [...]   
   > > > > > > > > > Try to keep your videos short, please. In any case, here are   
   some   
   > > > > > > > > > quick take-aways from the video that I found:   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > I have no control over the length of other videos, which is   
   why I   
   > > > > > > > > mentioned   
   > > > > > > > > the first 40 minutes. Which is what I would consider long in   
   most   
   > > > > > > > > instances.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > To control the length of videos: use only part of them, as you   
   did   
   > > > > > > > here; summarize your videos; or select videos that aren't so   
   long. No   
   > > > > > > > one wants to sit through a sermon-length video to follow your   
   > > > > > > > arguments.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > That said, I looked over your comments, and appreciated them.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > *he refers to himself as God's favorite, which is not only   
   ridiculous   
   > > > > > > > > > but un-Biblical   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > He also mentioned that everyone there is his “favorite’   
   that is   
   > > > > > > > > just   
   > > > > > > > > how   
   > > > > > > > > Jesus is he also made a big deal about that as much as what he   
   felt. I   
   > > > > > > > > too   
   > > > > > > > > have had that experience of feeling just that special,   
   although I was   
   > > > > > > > > not   
   > > > > > > > > in   
   > > > > > > > > any NDE moment, and I too knew that He, Jesus, feels that same   
   way for   
   > > > > > > > > all   
   > > > > > > > > others on earth who follow him.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > True, but he was evidently trying to give the impression that   
   the he   
   > > > > > > > *was* God's favorite, and then goes on to muddy the waters of   
   that   
   > > > > > > > ridiculousness by the use of the weasle-word "like" and the   
   inclusion   
   > > > > > > > of the idea that Jesus had "literally" died just for him.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > To do that I would need to download and edit the whole thing, and   
   then   
   > > > > > > be   
   > > > > > > accused of shaping the views as I want them to be. I prefer to   
   present   
   > > > > > > the   
   > > > > > > work of others unedited for obvious reasons, and I did mention the   
   > > > > > > length   
   > > > > > > and   
   > > > > > > suggested the 1st 40 minutes.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Why would "editing" be necessary? And regarding the paragraph you   
   > > > > > should've interchanged with the one directly above, at about eight   
   > > > > > minutes in, he says "Sid, he's only thought about me; he's only   
   > > > > > thought about me the entire time [since the beginning of the   
   > > > > > universe]...I've been his favorite the entire time" not "feels   
   > > > > > like," ... is!!   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Since I experienced the same thing with Jesus, the emotion was just as   
   > > > > strong, yet I knew I was not the only one he cared about. It was the   
   same   
   > > > > thing for him. He reiterated that several times. That reality all of   
   those   
   > > > > in   
   > > > > heaven also have.   
   > > >   
   > > > Growing up a Christian, I never had that experience. I was always   
   > > > quite aware of my real place in the universe, i.e., not literally   
   > > > God's favorite the way Gabe describes it.   
   > >   
   > > A lot haven’t. I know I didn’t when I prayed a "sinners prayer” when   
   I   
   > > was a kid.   
   > > But I sure did when I was around 30-32 at a terrible time in my life. And   
   > > when I asked God for the peace beyond all human understanding, that I first   
   > > asked God about when I was about 10-13 years old, which I have written   
   about   
   > > here on the Usenet. I asked God what it felt like to have that peace, and   
   if   
   > > I could feel it for 5minutes. He did it, and then asked if I wanted it   
   > > permanently. To cut the story short, and I can fill you in if you wish, I   
   > > then had God on by right side speaking to me and satan on my left, speaking   
   > > to me. I opted to tell God not now, later. That was without a doubt the   
   > > BIGGEST mistake in my life I ever made.   
   > >   
   > > At 30+ years of age when I was hurting so bad, and pacing, I remember   
   > > shaking   
   > > my fist at God at telling him I needed that peace, right now, and not a   
   > > month   
   > > later or some future time, or when he was good and ready to give it to me.   
   > > But Now! I know the spot where I was standing when he Gave it to me. Which   
   I   
   > > can describe again if you desire, but when by body was filled with that   
   > > peace, I immediately dropped on my knees and committed my whole being to   
   > > Him.   
   > > I have never looked back since.   
   > >   
   > > I learned, I dealt with the issues, and it was a process for sure, but the   
   > > peace of God was always with me. He worked within me, reshaping and   
   renewing   
   > > my mind, and he also answered prayers that some thought would never happen.   
   > > Yes, there were many prayers answered, and people around me knew of it.   
   >   
   > This is all happening in your head. Why couldn't you get all this   
   > supposed interaction with God out in the harsh light of day, rather   
   > than just in the shadows of your own thoughts? Like why couldn't it   
   > be something like you got a tape recording of God telling you things?   
   > I mean, doesn't this sound suspicious to you? Doesn't it seem more   
   > likely that your inner peace was the result of a placebo rather than   
   > something God did because he was too incompetent to give you peace to   
   > begin with?   
      
   He offered as well as showed me earlier in response to a question of mine, I   
   didn’t take him up on it. I said that to you, did you not read it? The   
   peace of God permeated my entire body. It surpasses all human understanding,   
   and your reply is evidence of that.   
   >   
   >   
   > > >   
   > > > > Even here on earth. The Holy Spirit indwells the heart/spirit of every   
   > > > > spirit   
   > > > > filled believer, and interoperates with each person at the same time.   
   He   
   > > > > is   
   > > > > just like Jesus same attributes, same power, same knowledge, same   
   > > > > mentorship   
   > > > > as did Jesus when he walked on earth as a man. That is what he meant   
   when   
   > > > > he   
      
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