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   > > > > said “I will send to you Another Comforter"   
   > > >   
   > > > Why couldn't this extra comforter be provided earlier?   
   > >   
   > > Because of the Law Covenant, and also as well as Christ had not come to   
   > > earth   
   > > to redeem us from the Law Covenant and set us all free from it. He had to   
   > > return to heaven in order that this same spirit that was in him could be in   
   > > all of the believers.   
   >   
   > God needed to rescue us from something he had created, i.e., the "Law   
   > of the Covenant" which he created??   
      
   You said you read the Bible, why is it that you do not know it was negotiated   
   and was a covenant between God and the Israelites, and exclusive of the   
   Gentiles unless they became Israilites.   
   >   
   >   
   > > Jhn 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I   
   > > go   
   > > away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I   
   > > depart, I will send him unto you.   
   >   
   > What's the difference between needing a comforter after Jesus left,   
   > and needing a comforter *before Jesus allegedly* came to earth to   
   > begin with?   
      
   Jesus was the comforter while he was active in his ministry. He promised that   
   we filled with the Holy Spirit could do greater things that he did. Satan has   
   done his best to dumb down the churches.   
   >   
   >   
   > > Jhn 16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of   
   > > righteousness, and of judgment:   
   >   
   > What do you suppose this means? I mean, I can use the NIV to get a   
   > good sense of what's being said here, but can you with your KJV tell   
   > us what it means to "reprove the world of sin"?   
      
   By the Holy Spirit who leads the believer into all truth.   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > > > > > *he denigrates women by saying God is more like a man than a   
   woman   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > Then you could also make that point from the Bible in the book   
   of   
   > > > > > > > > Genesis.   
   > > > > > > > > Within the first three chapters. Why? Because God made man in   
   His   
   > > > > > > > > Image.   
   > > > > > > > > The   
   > > > > > > > > woman he cloned from Adam, for Adams sake, Eve was made bone   
   of his   
   > > > > > > > > bone,   
   > > > > > > > > flesh of his flesh. Separate.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > If Eve had been a clone of Adam, Eve would've been a male.   
   > > > > > > > Furthermore, there's nothing wrong with being separate. There   
   *is*   
   > > > > > > > something wrong with being inferior, which is how Gabe refers to   
   > > > > > > > feminine attributes.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Adam was cloned for a purpose and with a purpose. To procreate,   
   and a   
   > > > > > > helpmate.   
   > > > > > > I didn’t personally see him denigrate women or call them   
   inferior. I   
   > > > > > > am   
   > > > > > > curious as to what part of the video that was in.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > At about 11:00 minutes in he says, "He's not feminine; he's not soft;   
   > > > > > he's not even nice. Sid, he doesn't play games -- he's a man. He   
   > > > > > means what he says."   
   > > > >   
   > > > > I have told my kids when they were young that Jesus was buff. After   
   all,   
   > > > > he   
   > > > > grew up as a carpenter.   
   > > > > He overturned the tables of money changers, etc. in the temple of His   
   > > > > Father.   
   > > > > Yes, he means what he says, he is no wimp, and it will be Him who   
   judges   
   > > > > all   
   > > > > men.   
   > > >   
   > > > Sounds like an interesting fantasy world you've got there, but it has   
   > > > nothing to do with Jesus not having any feminine attributes.   
   > >   
   > > What are feminine attributes? Love? Man have that, Nurturing? Men have   
   that.   
   > > Compassion, Men have that, it is integrated into the hearts of men. Ever   
   see   
   > > firemen and or policeman cry? See the horror on their faces as they hold a   
   > > dying child or greatly injured child? Ever see or hear of a cop showing   
   > > empathy towards adults who were at the end of their rope? I have.   
   >   
   > Maybe you should tell Gabe that, given that he seems to think that   
   > someone who meant what they say or avoid playing games could not be a   
   > woman. I don't know how he would react to crying cops, but remember   
   > that he says Jesus is not feminine.   
      
   It is a destructive sin for a man to be effeminate, why is that?   
   >   
   >   
   > > So I don’t understand where you are coming from. Men were created in the   
   > > image of God, with all of his attributes, but in the realm of this world.   
   We   
   > > were created less than the angels. Within us is the female DNA, as it were.   
   > > Typically, females have two X chromosomes, while males have one X and one Y   
   > > chromosome. So obviously men had with in them the same attributes as women   
   > > of   
   > > the 23 pairs of Chromosomes except for the pair that determined the male of   
   > > female bodily differences. And she was cloned as such so as to me a   
   helpmate   
   > > to man.   
   >   
   > Again, a clone could not be a different sex from what it's being   
   > cloned from. So if Eve was a clone of Adam, she would have to be a   
   > male.   
      
   Not at all.   
      
   Gen 2:21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he   
   slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;   
      
   Gen 2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman,   
   and brought her unto the man.   
      
   Gen 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh:   
   she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > So what's wrong with being soft or nice? And are women prone to   
   > > > > > "playing games", more so then men? Do women not mean what they say?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > He also is Love. PURE Love, and he knows what the intent of our heart   
   is.   
   > > > > Thank you for your honestly in your reply, and what you described was   
   your   
   > > > > own thoughts.   
   > > > > I would never have thought that, and there is no reason for anyone to.   
   > > >   
   > > > What are you talking about?   
   > >   
   > > Reflecting on your comment. As I cannot see your point made, nor your   
   > > reasoning there.   
   >   
   > Maybe you should reflect a little more before you post.   
   >   
   > > > > I was rough and tough, in this life, yet with women, and children I was   
   > > > > gentle and kind, Karen’s were given another chance ;) but if they   
   > > > > persisted   
   > > > > I would let them be. I would be understanding with men as well when   
   they   
   > > > > were   
   > > > > genuinely going through a rough time. But not with whiners, wimps, or   
   > > > > bullies of others. So I guess my outlook was a lot different than   
   yours.   
   > > >   
   > > > Do you think women are wimps?   
   > >   
   > > Some are, but what is your point?   
   >   
   > I'm trying to determine whether you share Gabe's evident belief that   
   > women are somehow less than men. Some women are wimps, but as a rule   
   > do they tend to be wimps, in your view?   
      
   Why do you always operate in the accusative. There is no reason for you to   
   think that of Gabe or myself.   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > > > > > *he refers to Revelation as Revelations, a common mistake by   
   people   
   > > > > > > > > > unfamiliar with the Bible   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > It is a book of revelations. Yet the books title is the   
   ’Book of   
   > > > > > > > > Revelation’. I too have made that same mistake many times.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Why do you keep making the same mistake? Don't you know it makes   
   you   
   > > > > > > > sound uneducated?   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Perhaps because I see the different revelations that were made in   
   the   
   > > > > > > book.   
   > > > > > > As to desire to be sounding educated, whatever that means. It is   
   not in   
   > > > > > > my   
   > > > > > > bag. I am so used to explaining things in a form to help others   
   see what   
   > > > > > > is   
      
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