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   > > > Anywhere in the world. What do you mean by "consistent layer level"?   
   > >   
   > > There is no place in the world where there is a consistent layer level that   
   > > is exhibited over a wide geographical area. The order of the layers say   
   from   
   > > 1-7 is not world wide consistent.   
   >   
   > They get only as large as their depositional basin. No world-wide   
   > layers and therefore no world-wide Flood.   
      
   Think about what you just said and what you stated earlier regarding the   
   upheavals of the earth that would account for certain layers of the earth   
   being on the mountain sides. As in the ‘mummy fields” That fact alone,   
   from you, would dissuade the idea of a consistent layering across the world.   
   That idea alone would render your last statement a mistake.   
   >   
   >   
   > > Do a little research into the “mummy fields” of Wyoming.. Discovered on   
   > > the side of a mountain.   
   >   
   > And mummies couldn't have formed during a Flood. What's your point?   
      
   What else would account for them? They are by far the best representation of   
   a particular breed of dinosaur including the skin texture that is currently   
   known to man.   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > 6. Metamorphism is not necessary for rocks to fold -- just a slow   
   > > > > > strain rate is required.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Nor is it necessary to heat iron to fold it. Just an anvil, hammer,   
   and a   
   > > > > skilled metalsmith.   
   > > >   
   > > > Rocks are not metals.   
   > >   
   > > The slip process is virtually the same. Look up the process.   
   >   
   > What do you mean by "slip process"?   
      
   The folding of Iron rocks, etc. a shear-slip is one form of it, speaking in   
   geological terminology.   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > Now, did you read my article?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Nope. I considered it, but I have seem so much one-sided agenda   
   oriented   
   > > > > articles which are written unscientifically over the years that it   
   sickens   
   > > > > me. It is rare to find a paper or someone or some group that isn’t   
   > > > > shaded   
   > > > > anymore. They all give in to politics, social agendas, and group think   
   or   
   > > > > mutual funds that it inhibits most true creative science.   
   > > >   
   > > > That's a lot of words to describe what you're doing here, namely being   
   > > > a coward.   
   > >   
   > > Thank you for your insight. But there is no cowardice within me. I have   
   been   
   > > there, done that, many times before, just like the link to your article in   
   > > regards to stalagmite’s. The subject of which I referred to in my posting   
   > > about limestone above.   
   >   
   > I was never involved in that. So prove you did this before, and do it   
   > again here for my benefit, at least.   
      
   Maybe later, at present this is taking up too much of my time, and this   
   thread is morphing into many variants outside the subject of the thread. As   
   is normal on the Usenet. VBG.   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > I am also not really into arguments of this type, as my focus has been   
   on   
   > > > > God, spirituality, both in this world and the other world, which BTW is   
   > > > > more real than the limited one we dwell in.   
   > > >   
   > > > So science is not your forte.   
   > >   
   > > It is not my focus, I have been involved with various sciences, some being   
   > > part of my work history, and also because I read a lot about many things in   
   > > most all areas of life, I have at the least a modicum of knowledge and   
   > > understanding of many things.   
   >   
   > Remind us why you are "not into arguments of this [scientific?] type"   
      
   Because I am more focused on sharing the things and realities of Christ.   
      
   I would inhabit the wood working NG’s if I wanted to learn and share, Same   
   with various sciences, same with the field of electricity, or electronics,   
   magnetism, engine design, communications, Chemistry, hacking/programming.   
   Etc. I still dabble in these things on occasion for short periods, even   
   photography, lenses, and all things related to that, but my primary focus,   
   interest, and devotion is the things of the Lord Jesus Christ, His and My   
   Heavenly Father, and the Heavenly Father is the Father of all believers in   
   Jesus who walk with the spirit of God. I am really looking forward to   
   eternity with him as there is no time, no limitations, and all that we can   
   create it is possible to due there, for the benefit of all.   
      
   God has stated that heaven is multiple times greater than one can think or   
   imagine, no limitations. I can think of no greater joy than to be there, with   
   Him. With full truth, love, and knowledge with wisdom, and be truly set free   
   from the bindings of these earth. That will truly be a world without end.   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > There used to be some great scientists, and I am sure there are some   
   now,   
   > > > > but to make money often destroys their desire and limits what they can   
   do   
   > > > > because of object focus, which limits there ability to follow the   
   offspring trails   
   > > > > into other possibly great things. That is how things work best.   
   > > >   
   > > > No, science is not a for-profit business activity.   
   > >   
   > > What world do you dwell in?   
   >   
   > You have a really cynical view of science. My understanding of its   
   > purpose is to learn about the natural world, not to make a few bucks.   
      
   You are speaking solely of the hobbyist, typically those with limited funds,   
   thereby severely limited.   
   Having some knowledge of the professional scientists, and the NDA’s they   
   are forced to sign, and or disclose ongoing private research they do as a   
   hobby, and the business end of it, things are not what they seem, and when   
   you discover something, and it is found to have value associated with it,   
   your name on that paper, depending on your position with the corporate   
   employer, may be only at the end of a list of Five more or less names of   
   others. And even if you were the sole author of the project, and director of   
   those that were hired to assist you, the corporate chain of command takes   
   precedence and you are a mere peon added to the list.   
      
   I have had too many friends that were burnt out because of it and quit their   
   fields entirely, and could not even do further work on their personal   
   projects due to the forced agreements. Now some of my children and   
   grandchildren are in various fields and some of them cannot even speak to me   
   in any degree about what they are doing. Which is not a bad thing, lol, since   
   without it we can just be family and not get side tracked.   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > There used to be think tanks where someone with great wealth would fund   
   > > > > research without limitations of directions, allowing dream chasers to   
   run   
   > > > > freely, uninhibited. Whether they were seemingly successful or not. I   
   > > > > don’t now it that exists anymore.   
   > > >   
   > > > No, science is better than think tanks.   
   > >   
   > > Then you have limited knowledge in regards to think tanks. I was looking   
   > > into   
   > > funding for one in my early years due to my inquisitive nature in many   
   > > things and arena's.   
   >   
   > So why did you lose your interest in think tanks? And what makes them   
   > even on a par with scientific excellence?   
      
   It has nothing to do with scientific excellence it has to do with ideas   
   carried out to their useful ends and or total failures thus proving it to be   
   just another pipe dream. That part of my life I did not wan't to sell to   
   anyone, although one of my project ideas I wish that I could have given it to   
   the proper people for even free, since it would/could have helped space   
   travel considerably in a variety of ways.   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > > > With the footprints, if you're talking about the Paluxy tracks,   
   those   
   > > > > > > > have been debunked even by other young earth creationists. There   
   is   
      
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