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   Message 94,739 of 96,161   
   Robert to Vincent Maycock   
   Re: I died and went to heaven for 18 day   
   28 Oct 25 19:18:07   
   
   [continued from previous message]   
      
   > > I thought you said you knew the Bible? It was not the plan that God desired   
   > > for them, and the people were very fearful of God and told Moses, “You   
   > > handle it”. And so it was a negotiated covenant.   
   > > As to miracles known world wide, at that point in time the known world was   
   > > small. And yes, those around them knew of them. Some coming to seek   
   > > healings,   
   > > other to join in with them, but many haters.   
   >   
   > Without relying on the myths and legends of the Bible, tell us about   
   > these people around Israel that knew of their supposed miracles.   
      
   2Ki 5:1 Now Naaman, captain of the host of the king of Syria, was a great man   
   with his master, and honourable, because by him the LORD had given   
   deliverance unto Syria: he was also a mighty man in valour, but he was a   
   leper.   
      
   2Ki 5:2 And the Syrians had gone out by companies, and had brought away   
   captive out of the land of Israel a little maid; and she waited on Naaman's   
   wife.   
      
   2Ki 5:3 And she said unto her mistress, Would God my lordwere with the   
   prophet that is in Samaria! for he would recover him of his leprosy.   
      
   2Ki 5:4 And one went in, and told his lord, saying, Thus and thus said the   
   maid thatis of the land of Israel.   
      
   2Ki 5:5 And the king of Syria said, Go to, go, and I will send a letter unto   
   the king of Israel. And he departed, and took with him ten talents of silver,   
   and six thousand pieces of gold, and ten changes of raiment.   
      
   2Ki 5:6 And he brought the letter to the king of Israel, saying, Now when   
   this letter is come unto thee, behold, I have therewith sent Naaman my   
   servant to thee, that thou mayest recover him of his leprosy.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > > > > There are recorded miracles throughout the centuries, some fake, but   
   the   
   > > > > believers recorded enough real ones throughout history. Before You Tube   
   > > > > use   
   > > > > of videos of real events people saw them with their own eyes. Telling   
   > > > > others.   
   > > > > In the Jesus movement there were many reporting, via the ministry of   
   Oral   
   > > > > Roberts and many others there was many, same with Kathryn Kuhlman. And   
   > > > > others since then.   
   > > >   
   > > > The prosperity gospel is rubbish.   
   > >   
   > > None of that was “prosperity gospel”.   
   >   
   > Oral Roberts is into that. You know, God wants you to be rich, and   
   > that sort of Biblical heresy.   
      
   He was not into prosperity Gospel.   
      
   3Jn 1:2 Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in   
   health, even as thy soul prospereth.   
      
   Oral passed away long ago.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > > > > But the best is soon to come and is already on its way.   
   > > >   
   > > > Why isn't it here now?   
   > >   
   > > It is, and it is picking up world wide. Even mentioned in part by that   
   young   
   > > man.   
   >   
   > How long has it been "picking up world wide"?   
      
   A few months.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > > > > I know of several deaths brought back to life when it was   
   medically   
   > > > > > > > > impossible to do. One being a healthy baby in the womb but   
   when Born   
   > > > > > > > > was   
   > > > > > > > > born dead. No cord around its neck, etc. They were able to   
   treat the   
   > > > > > > > > body   
   > > > > > > > > and   
   > > > > > > > > recover it, but for 8 days it was unresponsive and the said   
   brain   
   > > > > > > > > dead.   
   > > > > > > > > And   
   > > > > > > > > recommend pulling the plug and after eight days of prayer,   
   etc. it   
   > > > > > > > > open   
   > > > > > > > > his   
   > > > > > > > > eyes, and from there on started acting like a normal child,   
   that was   
   > > > > > > > > about 6   
   > > > > > > > > or so years ago, and the child is above his peers in learning   
   and that   
   > > > > > > > > was   
   > > > > > > > > observed when he was three as well. Normal in all things.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > LOL! Cite? Or is this another one of your YouTube videos? And   
   yet so   
   > > > > > > > many babies are still-born or are involved in a miscarriage,   
   that it's   
   > > > > > > > clear that there is no heavenly being protecting these young   
   lives.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > See there the mocking and accusations? I knew the family.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Did you know the other families as well? And what was the name of the   
   > > > > > family you described above?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Because they are already public knowledge, Duane Sheriff, who had an   
   NDE   
   > > > > and   
   > > > > one of his grandsons was the child I was speaking of.   
   > > >   
   > > > When and where did the NDE occur? And what about the "other   
   > > > families"?   
   > >   
   > > Both of them were in Arkansas, although Duane has since moved to Texas, and   
   > > his son has taken over in Arkansas.   
   > > Search them to find the reports. The other families I don’t know if they   
   > > made it public. And so I would not want to create issues for them   
   >   
   > That doesn't tell me the when, where, and why of these NDEs.   
      
   Why settle for hearsay when you can hear what they say about it?   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > In general, you need to read up on OBEs.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > From   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-body_experience#OBE_theories   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > "Terence Hines (2003) has written that spontaneous out-of-body   
   > > > > > experiences can be generated by artificial stimulation of the brain   
   > > > > > and this strongly suggests that the OBE is caused by "temporary,   
   minor   
   > > > > > brain malfunctions, not by the person's spirit actually leaving the   
   > > > > > body."[73] In a study review of neurological and neurocognitive data,   
   > > > > > Bünning and Blanke (2005) wrote that OBEs are due to "functional   
   > > > > > disintegration of lower-level multisensory processing and abnormal   
   > > > > > higher-level self-processing at the temporoparietal junction."[74]   
   > > > > > Some scientists suspect that OBEs are the result of a mismatch   
   between   
   > > > > > visual and tactile signals.[75][76]”   
   > > > > I am familiar with OOBE’s. Witches Warlocks have them on one level.   
   And   
   > > > > Christian Believers also have them. They are all spiritual. Both the   
   evil   
   > > > > as well as the Godly.   
   > > >   
   > > > No, they're a result of brain activity, as described above.   
   > >   
   > > You didn’t read it very well. "and this strongly suggests that the OBE is   
   > > caused by "temporary, minor   
   > > brain malfunctions, not by the person's spirit actually leaving the   
   body.”   
   >   
   > I did read it very well, and in fact I support their conclusions. What   
   > are you talking about?   
      
   They did not state that it was a fact, just "strongly suggests” other   
   scientists “suspect”/\.   
   >   
   >   
   > > That does little to support a fixed conclusion. Especially when the Witches   
   > > and warlocks describe what they saw and where they have been in spite of   
   > > never having been there physically, ever. And That is all in respect to the   
   > > realities of this world, which can be proven and verified by anyone.   
   >   
   > You believe in witches and warlocks? Are you sure your religion isn't   
   > Walt Disney?   
      
   My religion? Sorry I have none other than that specified in the book of   
   James.   
      
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