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|    Robert to Vincent Maycock    |
|    Re: I died and went to heaven for 18 day    |
|    28 Oct 25 19:18:07    |
      [continued from previous message]              > > I thought you said you knew the Bible? It was not the plan that God desired       > > for them, and the people were very fearful of God and told Moses, “You       > > handle it”. And so it was a negotiated covenant.       > > As to miracles known world wide, at that point in time the known world was       > > small. And yes, those around them knew of them. Some coming to seek       > > healings,       > > other to join in with them, but many haters.       >       > Without relying on the myths and legends of the Bible, tell us about       > these people around Israel that knew of their supposed miracles.              2Ki 5:1 Now Naaman, captain of the host of the king of Syria, was a great man       with his master, and honourable, because by him the LORD had given       deliverance unto Syria: he was also a mighty man in valour, but he was a       leper.              2Ki 5:2 And the Syrians had gone out by companies, and had brought away       captive out of the land of Israel a little maid; and she waited on Naaman's       wife.              2Ki 5:3 And she said unto her mistress, Would God my lordwere with the       prophet that is in Samaria! for he would recover him of his leprosy.              2Ki 5:4 And one went in, and told his lord, saying, Thus and thus said the       maid thatis of the land of Israel.              2Ki 5:5 And the king of Syria said, Go to, go, and I will send a letter unto       the king of Israel. And he departed, and took with him ten talents of silver,       and six thousand pieces of gold, and ten changes of raiment.              2Ki 5:6 And he brought the letter to the king of Israel, saying, Now when       this letter is come unto thee, behold, I have therewith sent Naaman my       servant to thee, that thou mayest recover him of his leprosy.              >       >       > > > > There are recorded miracles throughout the centuries, some fake, but       the       > > > > believers recorded enough real ones throughout history. Before You Tube       > > > > use       > > > > of videos of real events people saw them with their own eyes. Telling       > > > > others.       > > > > In the Jesus movement there were many reporting, via the ministry of       Oral       > > > > Roberts and many others there was many, same with Kathryn Kuhlman. And       > > > > others since then.       > > >       > > > The prosperity gospel is rubbish.       > >       > > None of that was “prosperity gospel”.       >       > Oral Roberts is into that. You know, God wants you to be rich, and       > that sort of Biblical heresy.              He was not into prosperity Gospel.              3Jn 1:2 Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in       health, even as thy soul prospereth.              Oral passed away long ago.              >       >       > > > > But the best is soon to come and is already on its way.       > > >       > > > Why isn't it here now?       > >       > > It is, and it is picking up world wide. Even mentioned in part by that       young       > > man.       >       > How long has it been "picking up world wide"?              A few months.              >       >       > > > > > > > > I know of several deaths brought back to life when it was       medically       > > > > > > > > impossible to do. One being a healthy baby in the womb but       when Born       > > > > > > > > was       > > > > > > > > born dead. No cord around its neck, etc. They were able to       treat the       > > > > > > > > body       > > > > > > > > and       > > > > > > > > recover it, but for 8 days it was unresponsive and the said       brain       > > > > > > > > dead.       > > > > > > > > And       > > > > > > > > recommend pulling the plug and after eight days of prayer,       etc. it       > > > > > > > > open       > > > > > > > > his       > > > > > > > > eyes, and from there on started acting like a normal child,       that was       > > > > > > > > about 6       > > > > > > > > or so years ago, and the child is above his peers in learning       and that       > > > > > > > > was       > > > > > > > > observed when he was three as well. Normal in all things.       > > > > > > >       > > > > > > > LOL! Cite? Or is this another one of your YouTube videos? And       yet so       > > > > > > > many babies are still-born or are involved in a miscarriage,       that it's       > > > > > > > clear that there is no heavenly being protecting these young       lives.       > > > > > >       > > > > > > See there the mocking and accusations? I knew the family.       > > > > >       > > > > > Did you know the other families as well? And what was the name of the       > > > > > family you described above?       > > > >       > > > > Because they are already public knowledge, Duane Sheriff, who had an       NDE       > > > > and       > > > > one of his grandsons was the child I was speaking of.       > > >       > > > When and where did the NDE occur? And what about the "other       > > > families"?       > >       > > Both of them were in Arkansas, although Duane has since moved to Texas, and       > > his son has taken over in Arkansas.       > > Search them to find the reports. The other families I don’t know if they       > > made it public. And so I would not want to create issues for them       >       > That doesn't tell me the when, where, and why of these NDEs.              Why settle for hearsay when you can hear what they say about it?       >       >       > > > > > In general, you need to read up on OBEs.       > > > > >       > > > > > From       > > > > >       > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-body_experience#OBE_theories       > > > > >       > > > > > "Terence Hines (2003) has written that spontaneous out-of-body       > > > > > experiences can be generated by artificial stimulation of the brain       > > > > > and this strongly suggests that the OBE is caused by "temporary,       minor       > > > > > brain malfunctions, not by the person's spirit actually leaving the       > > > > > body."[73] In a study review of neurological and neurocognitive data,       > > > > > Bünning and Blanke (2005) wrote that OBEs are due to "functional       > > > > > disintegration of lower-level multisensory processing and abnormal       > > > > > higher-level self-processing at the temporoparietal junction."[74]       > > > > > Some scientists suspect that OBEs are the result of a mismatch       between       > > > > > visual and tactile signals.[75][76]”       > > > > I am familiar with OOBE’s. Witches Warlocks have them on one level.       And       > > > > Christian Believers also have them. They are all spiritual. Both the       evil       > > > > as well as the Godly.       > > >       > > > No, they're a result of brain activity, as described above.       > >       > > You didn’t read it very well. "and this strongly suggests that the OBE is       > > caused by "temporary, minor       > > brain malfunctions, not by the person's spirit actually leaving the       body.”       >       > I did read it very well, and in fact I support their conclusions. What       > are you talking about?              They did not state that it was a fact, just "strongly suggests” other       scientists “suspect”/\.       >       >       > > That does little to support a fixed conclusion. Especially when the Witches       > > and warlocks describe what they saw and where they have been in spite of       > > never having been there physically, ever. And That is all in respect to the       > > realities of this world, which can be proven and verified by anyone.       >       > You believe in witches and warlocks? Are you sure your religion isn't       > Walt Disney?              My religion? Sorry I have none other than that specified in the book of       James.              --              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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