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   Of course I read it.  Didn't you read my reply?  Remember I said the   
   feeling of peace you had was just a placebo.   
      
   >> > > > Even here on earth. The Holy Spirit indwells the heart/spirit of every   
   >> > > > spirit   
   >> > > > filled believer, and interoperates with each person at the same time.   
   He   
   >> > > > is   
   >> > > > just like Jesus same attributes, same power, same knowledge, same   
   >> > > > mentorship   
   >> > > > as did Jesus when he walked on earth as a man. That is what he meant   
   when   
   >> > > > he   
   >> > > > said “I will send to you Another Comforter"   
   >> > >   
   >> > > Why couldn't this extra comforter be provided earlier?   
   >> >   
   >> > Because of the Law Covenant, and also as well as Christ had not come to   
   >> > earth   
   >> > to redeem us from the Law Covenant and set us all free from it. He had to   
   >> > return to heaven in order that this same spirit that was in him could be   
   in   
   >> > all of the believers.   
   >>   
   >> God needed to rescue us from something he had created, i.e., the "Law   
   >> of the Covenant" which he created??   
   >   
   >You said you read the Bible, why is it that you do not know it was negotiated   
   >and was a covenant between God and the Israelites, and exclusive of the   
   >Gentiles unless they became Israilites.   
      
   So you're saying God devised a new covenant because the Israelites   
   couldn't keep the old covenant.  Why wouldn't  God have anticipated   
   this and tried the new covenant to begin with?   
      
   >> > Jhn 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I   
   >> > go   
   >> > away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I   
   >> > depart, I will send him unto you.   
   >>   
   >> What's the difference between needing a comforter after Jesus left,   
   >> and needing a comforter *before Jesus allegedly* came to earth to   
   >> begin with?   
   >   
   >Jesus was the comforter while he was active in his ministry. He promised that   
   >we filled with the Holy Spirit could do greater things that he did. Satan has   
   >done his best to dumb down the churches.   
      
   That doesn't explain why a comforter couldn't be sent to humanity   
   before Jesus' supposed incarnation.   
      
   >> > Jhn 16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of   
   >> > righteousness, and of judgment:   
   >>   
   >> What do you suppose this means? I mean, I can use the NIV to get a   
   >> good sense of what's being said here, but can you with your KJV tell   
   >> us what it means to "reprove the world of sin"?   
   >   
   >By the Holy Spirit who leads the believer into all truth.   
      
   No, that is not what it means.  You should get a modern translation   
   and maybe then you'll understand what it's saying.   
      
   >> > > > > > > > > *he denigrates women by saying God is more like a man than   
   a woman   
   >> > > > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > > > Then you could also make that point from the Bible in the   
   book of   
   >> > > > > > > > Genesis.   
   >> > > > > > > > Within the first three chapters. Why? Because God made man in   
   His   
   >> > > > > > > > Image.   
   >> > > > > > > > The   
   >> > > > > > > > woman he cloned from Adam, for Adams sake, Eve was made bone   
   of his   
   >> > > > > > > > bone,   
   >> > > > > > > > flesh of his flesh. Separate.   
   >> > > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > > If Eve had been a clone of Adam, Eve would've been a male.   
   >> > > > > > > Furthermore, there's nothing wrong with being separate. There   
   *is*   
   >> > > > > > > something wrong with being inferior, which is how Gabe refers to   
   >> > > > > > > feminine attributes.   
   >> > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > Adam was cloned for a purpose and with a purpose. To procreate,   
   and a   
   >> > > > > > helpmate.   
   >> > > > > > I didn’t personally see him denigrate women or call them   
   inferior. I   
   >> > > > > > am   
   >> > > > > > curious as to what part of the video that was in.   
   >> > > > >   
   >> > > > > At about 11:00 minutes in he says, "He's not feminine; he's not   
   soft;   
   >> > > > > he's not even nice. Sid, he doesn't play games -- he's a man. He   
   >> > > > > means what he says."   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > I have told my kids when they were young that Jesus was buff. After   
   all,   
   >> > > > he   
   >> > > > grew up as a carpenter.   
   >> > > > He overturned the tables of money changers, etc. in the temple of His   
   >> > > > Father.   
   >> > > > Yes, he means what he says, he is no wimp, and it will be Him who   
   judges   
   >> > > > all   
   >> > > > men.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > Sounds like an interesting fantasy world you've got there, but it has   
   >> > > nothing to do with Jesus not having any feminine attributes.   
   >> >   
   >> > What are feminine attributes? Love? Man have that, Nurturing? Men have   
   that.   
   >> > Compassion, Men have that, it is integrated into the hearts of men. Ever   
   see   
   >> > firemen and or policeman cry? See the horror on their faces as they hold a   
   >> > dying child or greatly injured child? Ever see or hear of a cop showing   
   >> > empathy towards adults who were at the end of their rope? I have.   
   >>   
   >> Maybe you should tell Gabe that, given that he seems to think that   
   >> someone who meant what they say or avoid playing games could not be a   
   >> woman. I don't know how he would react to crying cops, but remember   
   >> that he says Jesus is not feminine.   
   >   
   >It is a destructive sin for a man to be effeminate, why is that?   
      
   We're talking about being feminine, (like a crying police man), not   
   effeminate like a transvestite.   
      
   >> > So I don’t understand where you are coming from. Men were created in the   
   >> > image of God, with all of his attributes, but in the realm of this world.   
   We   
   >> > were created less than the angels. Within us is the female DNA, as it   
   were.   
   >> > Typically, females have two X chromosomes, while males have one X and one   
   Y   
   >> > chromosome. So obviously men had with in them the same attributes as women   
   >> > of   
   >> > the 23 pairs of Chromosomes except for the pair that determined the male   
   of   
   >> > female bodily differences. And she was cloned as such so as to me a   
   helpmate   
   >> > to man.   
   >>   
   >> Again, a clone could not be a different sex from what it's being   
   >> cloned from. So if Eve was a clone of Adam, she would have to be a   
   >> male.   
   >   
   >Not at all.   
   >   
   >Gen 2:21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he   
   >slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;   
   >   
   >Gen 2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman,   
   >and brought her unto the man.   
   >   
   >Gen 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh:   
   >she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.   
      
   The Bible never says she was a clone, anymore than saying men are made   
   of mud; that was you that claimed that, and that's what I was   
   debunking.   
      
   >> > > > > So what's wrong with being soft or nice? And are women prone to   
   >> > > > > "playing games", more so then men? Do women not mean what they say?   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > He also is Love. PURE Love, and he knows what the intent of our heart   
   is.   
   >> > > > Thank you for your honestly in your reply, and what you described was   
   your   
   >> > > > own thoughts.   
   >> > > > I would never have thought that, and there is no reason for anyone to.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > What are you talking about?   
   >> >   
   >> > Reflecting on your comment. As I cannot see your point made, nor your   
   >> > reasoning there.   
   >>   
   >> Maybe you should reflect a little more before you post.   
   >>   
   >> > > > I was rough and tough, in this life, yet with women, and children I   
   was   
   >> > > > gentle and kind, Karen’s were given another chance ;) but if they   
   >> > > > persisted   
   >> > > > I would let them be. I would be understanding with men as well when   
   they   
   >> > > > were   
      
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