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   >> > small. And yes, those around them knew of them. Some coming to seek   
   >> > healings,   
   >> > other to join in with them, but many haters.   
   >>   
   >> Without relying on the myths and legends of the Bible, tell us about   
   >> these people around Israel that knew of their supposed miracles.   
   >   
   >2Ki 5:1 Now Naaman, captain of the host of the king of Syria, was a great man   
   >with his master, and honourable, because by him the LORD had given   
   >deliverance unto Syria: he was also a mighty man in valour, but he was a   
   >leper.   
   >   
   >2Ki 5:2 And the Syrians had gone out by companies, and had brought away   
   >captive out of the land of Israel a little maid; and she waited on Naaman's   
   >wife.   
   >   
   >2Ki 5:3 And she said unto her mistress, Would God my lordwere with the   
   >prophet that is in Samaria! for he would recover him of his leprosy.   
   >   
   >2Ki 5:4 And one went in, and told his lord, saying, Thus and thus said the   
   >maid thatis of the land of Israel.   
   >   
   >2Ki 5:5 And the king of Syria said, Go to, go, and I will send a letter unto   
   >the king of Israel. And he departed, and took with him ten talents of silver,   
   >and six thousand pieces of gold, and ten changes of raiment.   
   >   
   >2Ki 5:6 And he brought the letter to the king of Israel, saying, Now when   
   >this letter is come unto thee, behold, I have therewith sent Naaman my   
   >servant to thee, that thou mayest recover him of his leprosy.   
      
   Didn't you read what I said?  Remember, *without relying on the myths   
   and legends of the Bible.*   
      
   >> > > > There are recorded miracles throughout the centuries, some fake, but   
   the   
   >> > > > believers recorded enough real ones throughout history. Before You   
   Tube   
   >> > > > use   
   >> > > > of videos of real events people saw them with their own eyes. Telling   
   >> > > > others.   
   >> > > > In the Jesus movement there were many reporting, via the ministry of   
   Oral   
   >> > > > Roberts and many others there was many, same with Kathryn Kuhlman. And   
   >> > > > others since then.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > The prosperity gospel is rubbish.   
   >> >   
   >> > None of that was “prosperity gospel”.   
   >>   
   >> Oral Roberts is into that. You know, God wants you to be rich, and   
   >> that sort of Biblical heresy.   
   >   
   >He was not into prosperity Gospel.   
   >   
   >3Jn 1:2 Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in   
   >health, even as thy soul prospereth.   
      
   Part of the problem is that you are apparently a subscriber to the   
   prosperity gospel claims yourself.   Remember that the love of money   
   is the root of all evil, though (see 1 Timothy 6:10)   
      
   >Oral passed away long ago.   
      
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_Roberts   
      
   "Even though Roberts was often associated with the prosperity gospel   
   and the faith movement because of his close doctrinal and personal   
   ties with Word-Faith teachers, his abundant life teachings did not   
   fully identify him with that movement.[37]"   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> > > > But the best is soon to come and is already on its way.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > Why isn't it here now?   
   >> >   
   >> > It is, and it is picking up world wide. Even mentioned in part by that   
   young   
   >> > man.   
   >>   
   >> How long has it been "picking up world wide"?   
   >   
   >A few months.   
      
   So how soon do you anticipate the return of Christ, based on "a few   
   months" mentioned here?   
      
   >> > > > > > > > I know of several deaths brought back to life when it was   
   medically   
   >> > > > > > > > impossible to do. One being a healthy baby in the womb but   
   when Born   
   >> > > > > > > > was   
   >> > > > > > > > born dead. No cord around its neck, etc. They were able to   
   treat the   
   >> > > > > > > > body   
   >> > > > > > > > and   
   >> > > > > > > > recover it, but for 8 days it was unresponsive and the said   
   brain   
   >> > > > > > > > dead.   
   >> > > > > > > > And   
   >> > > > > > > > recommend pulling the plug and after eight days of prayer,   
   etc. it   
   >> > > > > > > > open   
   >> > > > > > > > his   
   >> > > > > > > > eyes, and from there on started acting like a normal child,   
   that was   
   >> > > > > > > > about 6   
   >> > > > > > > > or so years ago, and the child is above his peers in learning   
   and that   
   >> > > > > > > > was   
   >> > > > > > > > observed when he was three as well. Normal in all things.   
   >> > > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > > LOL! Cite? Or is this another one of your YouTube videos? And   
   yet so   
   >> > > > > > > many babies are still-born or are involved in a miscarriage,   
   that it's   
   >> > > > > > > clear that there is no heavenly being protecting these young   
   lives.   
   >> > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > See there the mocking and accusations? I knew the family.   
   >> > > > >   
   >> > > > > Did you know the other families as well? And what was the name of   
   the   
   >> > > > > family you described above?   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > Because they are already public knowledge, Duane Sheriff, who had an   
   NDE   
   >> > > > and   
   >> > > > one of his grandsons was the child I was speaking of.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > When and where did the NDE occur? And what about the "other   
   >> > > families"?   
   >> >   
   >> > Both of them were in Arkansas, although Duane has since moved to Texas,   
   and   
   >> > his son has taken over in Arkansas.   
   >> > Search them to find the reports. The other families I don’t know if they   
   >> > made it public. And so I would not want to create issues for them   
   >>   
   >> That doesn't tell me the when, where, and why of these NDEs.   
   >   
   >Why settle for hearsay when you can hear what they say about it?   
      
   Which is what?   
      
   >>   
   >> > > > > In general, you need to read up on OBEs.   
   >> > > > >   
   >> > > > > From   
   >> > > > >   
   >> > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-body_experience#OBE_theories   
   >> > > > >   
   >> > > > > "Terence Hines (2003) has written that spontaneous out-of-body   
   >> > > > > experiences can be generated by artificial stimulation of the brain   
   >> > > > > and this strongly suggests that the OBE is caused by "temporary,   
   minor   
   >> > > > > brain malfunctions, not by the person's spirit actually leaving the   
   >> > > > > body."[73] In a study review of neurological and neurocognitive   
   data,   
   >> > > > > Bünning and Blanke (2005) wrote that OBEs are due to "functional   
   >> > > > > disintegration of lower-level multisensory processing and abnormal   
   >> > > > > higher-level self-processing at the temporoparietal junction."[74]   
   >> > > > > Some scientists suspect that OBEs are the result of a mismatch   
   between   
   >> > > > > visual and tactile signals.[75][76]”   
   >> > > > I am familiar with OOBE’s. Witches Warlocks have them on one level.   
   And   
   >> > > > Christian Believers also have them. They are all spiritual. Both the   
   evil   
   >> > > > as well as the Godly.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > No, they're a result of brain activity, as described above.   
   >> >   
   >> > You didn’t read it very well. "and this strongly suggests that the OBE is   
   >> > caused by "temporary, minor   
   >> > brain malfunctions, not by the person's spirit actually leaving the body.”   
   >>   
   >> I did read it very well, and in fact I support their conclusions. What   
   >> are you talking about?   
   >   
   >They did not state that it was a fact, just "strongly suggests” other   
   >scientists “suspect”/\.   
      
   Going with what they strongly suggest would seem to be the wisest   
   course of action.   
      
   >>   
   >> > That does little to support a fixed conclusion. Especially when the   
   Witches   
   >> > and warlocks describe what they saw and where they have been in spite of   
   >> > never having been there physically, ever. And That is all in respect to   
   the   
   >> > realities of this world, which can be proven and verified by anyone.   
   >>   
   >> You believe in witches and warlocks? Are you sure your religion isn't   
   >> Walt Disney?   
   >   
   >My religion? Sorry I have none other than that specified in the book of   
   >James.   
      
      
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