XPost: alt.atheism   
   From: .robert@mu.way   
      
   On Oct 29, 2025, Vincent Maycock wrote   
   (Message-ID:<45h3gk5dovtqb2n2hf53t46se5evcg7hne@4ax.com>):   
      
   > On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 19:18:07 -0700, Robert<.robert@mu.way>  wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Oct 27, 2025, Vincent Maycock wrote   
   > > (Message-ID:):   
   > >   
   > > > On Mon, 27 Oct 2025 15:51:31 -0700, Robert<.robert@mu.way>  wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > > On Oct 27, 2025, Vincent Maycock wrote   
   > > > > (Message-ID:):   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > On Sun, 26 Oct 2025 23:43:23 -0700, Robert<.robert@mu.way>  wrote:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > On Oct 26, 2025, Vincent Maycock wrote   
   > > > > > > (Message-ID:):   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > On Sat, 25 Oct 2025 22:57:24 -0700, Robert<.robert@mu.way>    
   wrote:   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > On Oct 25, 2025, Vincent Maycock wrote   
   > > > > > > > > (Message-ID:<3i2rfkps03pue5omk1oo5jqdm1cgfgs7as@4ax.com>):   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 25 Oct 2025 16:51:16 -0700, Robert<.robert@mu.way>    
   wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 25, 2025, Vincent Maycock wrote   
   > > > > > [...]   
   > > > > > > > > > > > Try to keep your videos short, please. In any case, here   
   are some   
   > > > > > > > > > > > quick take-aways from the video that I found:   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > I have no control over the length of other videos, which   
   is why I   
   > > > > > > > > > > mentioned   
   > > > > > > > > > > the first 40 minutes. Which is what I would consider long   
   in most   
   > > > > > > > > > > instances.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > To control the length of videos: use only part of them, as   
   you did   
   > > > > > > > > > here; summarize your videos; or select videos that aren't so   
   long. No   
   > > > > > > > > > one wants to sit through a sermon-length video to follow your   
   > > > > > > > > > arguments.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > That said, I looked over your comments, and appreciated   
   them.   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > *he refers to himself as God's favorite, which is not   
   only   
   > > > > > > > > > > > ridiculous   
   > > > > > > > > > > > but un-Biblical   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > He also mentioned that everyone there is his   
   “favorite’ that is   
   > > > > > > > > > > just   
   > > > > > > > > > > how   
   > > > > > > > > > > Jesus is he also made a big deal about that as much as   
   what he   
   > > > > > > > > > > felt. I   
   > > > > > > > > > > too   
   > > > > > > > > > > have had that experience of feeling just that special,   
   although I   
   > > > > > > > > > > was   
   > > > > > > > > > > not   
   > > > > > > > > > > in   
   > > > > > > > > > > any NDE moment, and I too knew that He, Jesus, feels that   
   same way   
   > > > > > > > > > > for   
   > > > > > > > > > > all   
   > > > > > > > > > > others on earth who follow him.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > True, but he was evidently trying to give the impression   
   that the he   
   > > > > > > > > > *was* God's favorite, and then goes on to muddy the waters   
   of that   
   > > > > > > > > > ridiculousness by the use of the weasle-word "like" and the   
   inclusion   
   > > > > > > > > > of the idea that Jesus had "literally" died just for him.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > To do that I would need to download and edit the whole thing,   
   and then   
   > > > > > > > > be   
   > > > > > > > > accused of shaping the views as I want them to be. I prefer to   
   present   
   > > > > > > > > the   
   > > > > > > > > work of others unedited for obvious reasons, and I did mention   
   the   
   > > > > > > > > length   
   > > > > > > > > and   
   > > > > > > > > suggested the 1st 40 minutes.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Why would "editing" be necessary? And regarding the paragraph you   
   > > > > > > > should've interchanged with the one directly above, at about   
   eight   
   > > > > > > > minutes in, he says "Sid, he's only thought about me; he's only   
   > > > > > > > thought about me the entire time [since the beginning of the   
   > > > > > > > universe]...I've been his favorite the entire time" not "feels   
   > > > > > > > like," ... is!!   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Since I experienced the same thing with Jesus, the emotion was   
   just as   
   > > > > > > strong, yet I knew I was not the only one he cared about. It was   
   the   
   > > > > > > same   
   > > > > > > thing for him. He reiterated that several times. That reality all   
   of   
   > > > > > > those   
   > > > > > > in   
   > > > > > > heaven also have.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Growing up a Christian, I never had that experience. I was always   
   > > > > > quite aware of my real place in the universe, i.e., not literally   
   > > > > > God's favorite the way Gabe describes it.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > A lot haven’t. I know I didn’t when I prayed a "sinners prayer”   
   > > > > when I   
   > > > > was a kid.   
   > > > > But I sure did when I was around 30-32 at a terrible time in my life.   
   And   
   > > > > when I asked God for the peace beyond all human understanding, that I   
   > > > > first   
   > > > > asked God about when I was about 10-13 years old, which I have written   
   > > > > about   
   > > > > here on the Usenet. I asked God what it felt like to have that peace,   
   and   
   > > > > if   
   > > > > I could feel it for 5minutes. He did it, and then asked if I wanted it   
   > > > > permanently. To cut the story short, and I can fill you in if you   
   wish, I   
   > > > > then had God on by right side speaking to me and satan on my left,   
   > > > > speaking   
   > > > > to me. I opted to tell God not now, later. That was without a doubt the   
   > > > > BIGGEST mistake in my life I ever made.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > At 30+ years of age when I was hurting so bad, and pacing, I remember   
   > > > > shaking   
   > > > > my fist at God at telling him I needed that peace, right now, and not a   
   > > > > month   
   > > > > later or some future time, or when he was good and ready to give it to   
   me.   
   > > > > But Now! I know the spot where I was standing when he Gave it to me.   
   > > > > Which I   
   > > > > can describe again if you desire, but when by body was filled with that   
   > > > > peace, I immediately dropped on my knees and committed my whole being   
   to   
   > > > > Him.   
   > > > > I have never looked back since.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > I learned, I dealt with the issues, and it was a process for sure, but   
   the   
   > > > > peace of God was always with me. He worked within me, reshaping and   
   > > > > renewing   
   > > > > my mind, and he also answered prayers that some thought would never   
   > > > > happen.   
   > > > > Yes, there were many prayers answered, and people around me knew of it.   
   > > >   
   > > > This is all happening in your head. Why couldn't you get all this   
   > > > supposed interaction with God out in the harsh light of day, rather   
   > > > than just in the shadows of your own thoughts? Like why couldn't it   
   > > > be something like you got a tape recording of God telling you things?   
   > > > I mean, doesn't this sound suspicious to you? Doesn't it seem more   
      
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