[continued from previous message]   
      
   > > > likely that your inner peace was the result of a placebo rather than   
   > > > something God did because he was too incompetent to give you peace to   
   > > > begin with?   
   > >   
   > > He offered as well as showed me earlier in response to a question of mine,   
   I   
   > > didn’t take him up on it. I said that to you, did you not read it? The   
   > > peace of God permeated my entire body. It surpasses all human   
   understanding,   
   > > and your reply is evidence of that.   
   >   
   > Of course I read it. Didn't you read my reply? Remember I said the   
   > feeling of peace you had was just a placebo.   
      
   God does not hand out placebo’s   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > > Even here on earth. The Holy Spirit indwells the heart/spirit of   
   every   
   > > > > > > spirit   
   > > > > > > filled believer, and interoperates with each person at the same   
   time. He   
   > > > > > > is   
   > > > > > > just like Jesus same attributes, same power, same knowledge, same   
   > > > > > > mentorship   
   > > > > > > as did Jesus when he walked on earth as a man. That is what he   
   meant   
   > > > > > > when   
   > > > > > > he   
   > > > > > > said “I will send to you Another Comforter"   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Why couldn't this extra comforter be provided earlier?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Because of the Law Covenant, and also as well as Christ had not come to   
   > > > > earth   
   > > > > to redeem us from the Law Covenant and set us all free from it. He had   
   to   
   > > > > return to heaven in order that this same spirit that was in him could   
   be   
   > > > > in   
   > > > > all of the believers.   
   > > >   
   > > > God needed to rescue us from something he had created, i.e., the "Law   
   > > > of the Covenant" which he created??   
   > >   
   > > You said you read the Bible, why is it that you do not know it was   
   > > negotiated   
   > > and was a covenant between God and the Israelites, and exclusive of the   
   > > Gentiles unless they became Israilites.   
   >   
   > So you're saying God devised a new covenant because the Israelites   
   > couldn't keep the old covenant.   
      
   No   
      
   > Why wouldn't God have anticipated this and tried the new covenant to begin   
   with?   
      
   You said you read the bible and know it better than most christians yet you   
   ask a question like that?   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > Jhn 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you   
   that I   
   > > > > go   
   > > > > away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but   
   if I   
   > > > > depart, I will send him unto you.   
   > > >   
   > > > What's the difference between needing a comforter after Jesus left,   
   > > > and needing a comforter *before Jesus allegedly* came to earth to   
   > > > begin with?   
   > >   
   > > Jesus was the comforter while he was active in his ministry. He promised   
   > > that   
   > > we filled with the Holy Spirit could do greater things that he did. Satan   
   > > has   
   > > done his best to dumb down the churches.   
   >   
   > That doesn't explain why a comforter couldn't be sent to humanity   
   > before Jesus' supposed incarnation.   
      
   Jesus was not incarnated.   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > Jhn 16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of   
   > > > > righteousness, and of judgment:   
   > > >   
   > > > What do you suppose this means? I mean, I can use the NIV to get a   
   > > > good sense of what's being said here, but can you with your KJV tell   
   > > > us what it means to "reprove the world of sin"?   
   > >   
   > > By the Holy Spirit who leads the believer into all truth.   
   >   
   > No, that is not what it means. You should get a modern translation   
   > and maybe then you'll understand what it's saying.   
      
   I live it, you reject it.   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > *he denigrates women by saying God is more like a man   
   than a woman   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > Then you could also make that point from the Bible in the   
   book of   
   > > > > > > > > > > Genesis.   
   > > > > > > > > > > Within the first three chapters. Why? Because God made man   
   in His   
   > > > > > > > > > > Image.   
   > > > > > > > > > > The   
   > > > > > > > > > > woman he cloned from Adam, for Adams sake, Eve was made   
   bone of his   
   > > > > > > > > > > bone,   
   > > > > > > > > > > flesh of his flesh. Separate.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > If Eve had been a clone of Adam, Eve would've been a male.   
   > > > > > > > > > Furthermore, there's nothing wrong with being separate.   
   There *is*   
   > > > > > > > > > something wrong with being inferior, which is how Gabe   
   refers to   
   > > > > > > > > > feminine attributes.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > Adam was cloned for a purpose and with a purpose. To   
   procreate, and a   
   > > > > > > > > helpmate.   
   > > > > > > > > I didn’t personally see him denigrate women or call them   
   inferior. I   
   > > > > > > > > am   
   > > > > > > > > curious as to what part of the video that was in.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > At about 11:00 minutes in he says, "He's not feminine; he's not   
   soft;   
   > > > > > > > he's not even nice. Sid, he doesn't play games -- he's a man. He   
   > > > > > > > means what he says."   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > I have told my kids when they were young that Jesus was buff.   
   After all,   
   > > > > > > he   
   > > > > > > grew up as a carpenter.   
   > > > > > > He overturned the tables of money changers, etc. in the temple of   
   His   
   > > > > > > Father.   
   > > > > > > Yes, he means what he says, he is no wimp, and it will be Him who   
   judges   
   > > > > > > all   
   > > > > > > men.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Sounds like an interesting fantasy world you've got there, but it has   
   > > > > > nothing to do with Jesus not having any feminine attributes.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > What are feminine attributes? Love? Man have that, Nurturing? Men have   
   > > > > that.   
   > > > > Compassion, Men have that, it is integrated into the hearts of men.   
   Ever   
   > > > > see   
   > > > > firemen and or policeman cry? See the horror on their faces as they   
   hold a   
   > > > > dying child or greatly injured child? Ever see or hear of a cop showing   
   > > > > empathy towards adults who were at the end of their rope? I have.   
   > > >   
   > > > Maybe you should tell Gabe that, given that he seems to think that   
   > > > someone who meant what they say or avoid playing games could not be a   
   > > > woman. I don't know how he would react to crying cops, but remember   
   > > > that he says Jesus is not feminine.   
   > >   
   > > It is a destructive sin for a man to be effeminate, why is that?   
   >   
   > We're talking about being feminine, (like a crying police man), not   
   > effeminate like a transvestite.   
      
   No, you are talking about something you know little of.   
   You know as much about being a woman as the last democratic VP wannabe knows   
   about being a man.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > > > > So I don’t understand where you are coming from. Men were created in   
   the   
   > > > > image of God, with all of his attributes, but in the realm of this   
   world.   
   > > > > We   
   > > > > were created less than the angels. Within us is the female DNA, as it   
   > > > > were.   
   > > > > Typically, females have two X chromosomes, while males have one X and   
   one   
   > > > > Y   
   > > > > chromosome. So obviously men had with in them the same attributes as   
   women   
   > > > > of   
   > > > > the 23 pairs of Chromosomes except for the pair that determined the   
   male   
   > > > > of   
   > > > > female bodily differences. And she was cloned as such so as to me a   
   > > > > helpmate   
   > > > > to man.   
   > > >   
   > > > Again, a clone could not be a different sex from what it's being   
   > > > cloned from. So if Eve was a clone of Adam, she would have to be a   
   > > > male.   
   > >   
   > > Not at all.   
   > >   
   > > Gen 2:21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he   
   > > slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead   
   thereof;   
   > >   
   > > Gen 2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a   
   > > woman,   
   > > and brought her unto the man.   
      
   [continued in next message]   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)