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   > > > > > > > > > Because your YouTube videos told you so?   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > That is a ridiculous slam.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > What sources do you use besides YouTube, that lead you to believe   
   > > > > > > > miracles have been happening for 2K years (should be 6K, but,   
   then   
   > > > > > > > those are your beliefs, not mine)?   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Well the miracles during the times of Israel happened and were   
   known of   
   > > > > > > WW.   
   > > > > > > They were somewhat limited because of the Law Covenant, the NT is   
   a new,   
   > > > > > > different, and better covenant.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > So the first covenant was a mistake by God? And there were no   
   miracles   
   > > > > > in ancient Israel known "world wide".   
   > > > >   
   > > > > I thought you said you knew the Bible? It was not the plan that God   
   > > > > desired   
   > > > > for them, and the people were very fearful of God and told Moses,   
   “You   
   > > > > handle it”. And so it was a negotiated covenant.   
   > > > > As to miracles known world wide, at that point in time the known world   
   was   
   > > > > small. And yes, those around them knew of them. Some coming to seek   
   > > > > healings,   
   > > > > other to join in with them, but many haters.   
   > > >   
   > > > Without relying on the myths and legends of the Bible, tell us about   
   > > > these people around Israel that knew of their supposed miracles.   
   > >   
   > > 2Ki 5:1 Now Naaman, captain of the host of the king of Syria, was a great   
   > > man   
   > > with his master, and honourable, because by him the LORD had given   
   > > deliverance unto Syria: he was also a mighty man in valour, but he was a   
   > > leper.   
   > >   
   > > 2Ki 5:2 And the Syrians had gone out by companies, and had brought away   
   > > captive out of the land of Israel a little maid; and she waited on Naaman's   
   > > wife.   
   > >   
   > > 2Ki 5:3 And she said unto her mistress, Would God my lordwere with the   
   > > prophet that is in Samaria! for he would recover him of his leprosy.   
   > >   
   > > 2Ki 5:4 And one went in, and told his lord, saying, Thus and thus said the   
   > > maid thatis of the land of Israel.   
   > >   
   > > 2Ki 5:5 And the king of Syria said, Go to, go, and I will send a letter   
   unto   
   > > the king of Israel. And he departed, and took with him ten talents of   
   > > silver,   
   > > and six thousand pieces of gold, and ten changes of raiment.   
   > >   
   > > 2Ki 5:6 And he brought the letter to the king of Israel, saying, Now when   
   > > this letter is come unto thee, behold, I have therewith sent Naaman my   
   > > servant to thee, that thou mayest recover him of his leprosy.   
   >   
   > Didn't you read what I said? Remember, *without relying on the myths   
   > and legends of the Bible.*   
      
   There are no myths there no legends either.   
   In RL there are legends based on facts as well as embellished thinking.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > > There are recorded miracles throughout the centuries, some fake,   
   but the   
   > > > > > > believers recorded enough real ones throughout history. Before You   
   Tube   
   > > > > > > use   
   > > > > > > of videos of real events people saw them with their own eyes.   
   Telling   
   > > > > > > others.   
   > > > > > > In the Jesus movement there were many reporting, via the ministry   
   of   
   > > > > > > Oral   
   > > > > > > Roberts and many others there was many, same with Kathryn Kuhlman.   
   And   
   > > > > > > others since then.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > The prosperity gospel is rubbish.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > None of that was “prosperity gospel”.   
   > > >   
   > > > Oral Roberts is into that. You know, God wants you to be rich, and   
   > > > that sort of Biblical heresy.   
   > >   
   > > He was not into prosperity Gospel.   
   > >   
   > > 3Jn 1:2 Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in   
   > > health, even as thy soul prospereth.   
   >   
   > Part of the problem is that you are apparently a subscriber to the   
   > prosperity gospel claims yourself. Remember that the love of money   
   > is the root of all evil, though (see 1 Timothy 6:10)   
      
   And that is the reason why people fall prey to false teachers, who are also   
   dwelling under the love of money. Give for the sole purpose of getting. That   
   is not Godly. Nor is it of God. Money has become a god to those people. Not   
   that you would understand.   
      
   God blesses his own.   
   I could tell you stories about God blessing me, in RL, and how I learned   
   about such things. But it would be of no help to you as you are not of a mind   
   to understand and learn.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > > Oral passed away long ago.   
   >   
   > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_Roberts   
   >   
   > "Even though Roberts was often associated with the prosperity gospel   
   > and the faith movement because of his close doctrinal and personal   
   > ties with Word-Faith teachers, his abundant life teachings did not   
   > fully identify him with that movement.[37]"   
      
   Yet you place him fully there. I am a bit surprised that there was a modicum   
   of truth there, being that it was WIKI.   
   >   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > > > > > But the best is soon to come and is already on its way.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Why isn't it here now?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > It is, and it is picking up world wide. Even mentioned in part by that   
   > > > > young   
   > > > > man.   
   > > >   
   > > > How long has it been "picking up world wide"?   
   > >   
   > > A few months.   
   >   
   > So how soon do you anticipate the return of Christ, based on "a few   
   > months" mentioned here?   
      
   I could not say anything definitive, and neither can Christ. But when you see   
   the city of Damascus destroyed over night then note it will be extremely   
   soon.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > > > > > > I know of several deaths brought back to life when it was   
   medically   
   > > > > > > > > > > impossible to do. One being a healthy baby in the womb but   
   when Born   
   > > > > > > > > > > was   
   > > > > > > > > > > born dead. No cord around its neck, etc. They were able to   
   treat the   
   > > > > > > > > > > body   
   > > > > > > > > > > and   
   > > > > > > > > > > recover it, but for 8 days it was unresponsive and the   
   said brain   
   > > > > > > > > > > dead.   
   > > > > > > > > > > And   
   > > > > > > > > > > recommend pulling the plug and after eight days of prayer,   
   etc. it   
   > > > > > > > > > > open   
   > > > > > > > > > > his   
   > > > > > > > > > > eyes, and from there on started acting like a normal   
   child, that was   
   > > > > > > > > > > about 6   
   > > > > > > > > > > or so years ago, and the child is above his peers in   
   learning and   
   > > > > > > > > > > that   
   > > > > > > > > > > was   
   > > > > > > > > > > observed when he was three as well. Normal in all things.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > LOL! Cite? Or is this another one of your YouTube videos?   
   And yet so   
   > > > > > > > > > many babies are still-born or are involved in a miscarriage,   
   that   
   > > > > > > > > > it's   
   > > > > > > > > > clear that there is no heavenly being protecting these young   
   lives.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > See there the mocking and accusations? I knew the family.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Did you know the other families as well? And what was the name   
   of the   
   > > > > > > > family you described above?   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Because they are already public knowledge, Duane Sheriff, who had   
   an NDE   
   > > > > > > and   
   > > > > > > one of his grandsons was the child I was speaking of.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > When and where did the NDE occur? And what about the "other   
   > > > > > families"?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Both of them were in Arkansas, although Duane has since moved to Texas,   
   > > > > and his son has taken over in Arkansas.   
   > > > > Search them to find the reports. The other families I don’t know if   
   they   
   > > > > made it public. And so I would not want to create issues for them   
   > > >   
   > > > That doesn't tell me the when, where, and why of these NDEs.   
   > >   
      
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