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   Message 94,760 of 96,161   
   Robert to Vincent Maycock   
   Re: I died and went to heaven for 18 day   
   29 Oct 25 13:01:50   
   
   [continued from previous message]   
      
   > > Why settle for hearsay when you can hear what they say about it?   
   >   
   > Which is what?   
      
   I just told you what to look for so you can hear it for yourself. If you are   
   not motived to look for it, then obviously you are not interested.   
   >   
   >   
   > > >   
   > > > > > > > In general, you need to read up on OBEs.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > From   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-body_experience#OBE_theories   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > "Terence Hines (2003) has written that spontaneous out-of-body   
   > > > > > > > experiences can be generated by artificial stimulation of the   
   brain   
   > > > > > > > and this strongly suggests that the OBE is caused by "temporary,   
   minor   
   > > > > > > > brain malfunctions, not by the person's spirit actually leaving   
   the   
   > > > > > > > body."[73] In a study review of neurological and neurocognitive   
   data,   
   > > > > > > > Bünning and Blanke (2005) wrote that OBEs are due to "functional   
   > > > > > > > disintegration of lower-level multisensory processing and   
   abnormal   
   > > > > > > > higher-level self-processing at the temporoparietal   
   junction."[74]   
   > > > > > > > Some scientists suspect that OBEs are the result of a mismatch   
   between   
   > > > > > > > visual and tactile signals.[75][76]”   
   > > > > > > I am familiar with OOBE’s. Witches Warlocks have them on one   
   level.   
   > > > > > > And   
   > > > > > > Christian Believers also have them. They are all spiritual. Both   
   the   
   > > > > > > evil   
   > > > > > > as well as the Godly.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > No, they're a result of brain activity, as described above.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > You didn’t read it very well. "and this strongly suggests that the   
   OBE   
   > > > > is   
   > > > > caused by "temporary, minor   
   > > > > brain malfunctions, not by the person's spirit actually leaving the   
   > > > > body.”   
   > > >   
   > > > I did read it very well, and in fact I support their conclusions. What   
   > > > are you talking about?   
   > >   
   > > They did not state that it was a fact, just "strongly suggests” other   
   > > scientists “suspect”/\.   
   >   
   > Going with what they strongly suggest would seem to be the wisest   
   > course of action.   
      
   Really? So you put faith in the unsubstantiated words of men? Even when they   
   disagree on it as point out in the article?   
   >   
   >   
   > > >   
   > > > > That does little to support a fixed conclusion. Especially when the   
   > > > > Witches   
   > > > > and warlocks describe what they saw and where they have been in spite   
   of   
   > > > > never having been there physically, ever. And That is all in respect to   
   > > > > the   
   > > > > realities of this world, which can be proven and verified by anyone.   
   > > >   
   > > > You believe in witches and warlocks? Are you sure your religion isn't   
   > > > Walt Disney?   
   > >   
   > > My religion? Sorry I have none other than that specified in the book of   
   > > James.   
   >   
   > You're part of a religion, regardless of your aversion to the word.   
      
   No, I am part of the Body of Christ. The head of which is Jesus.   
      
   Being as you are only posting to argue and not even to appreciate the   
   thoughts and understandings of other, then what point is there in continuing   
   on in this subject?   
      
   I understand your opposition, even though I do not know what caused you to   
   turn away from Him. And at this point in your life that might be a very faint   
   memory to you or a very sore one. I do not know.   
      
   You do have the ability to think and exercise that occasionally and I   
   appreciate that part of you.   
      
   Regards....   
      
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