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   James to usenet@christrose.news   
   Churches and examples of false teachings   
   29 Oct 25 23:49:51   
   
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   facts about Christ's return. If a time period matches that, then you   
   have the return.   
      
   And they figured 1914. All of it came from the Bible.   
   But if Jesus returned in 1914, why haven't things changed?   
   Because Jesus at first has to rule with his enemies around him:   
      
   Ps 110:2b, "Rule in the midst of Your enemies!"   
   >   
   >4. *Misuse of God’s name as an exclusive badge* –   
   >   
   >While claiming to restore divine honor by using “Jehovah,” the   
   >Watchtower organization has turned the Name into a *sectarian identity*,   
   >echoing pagan religions that used secret or sacred names for spiritual   
   >power. Yet the New Testament centers faith on *Jesus’ name* (Acts 4:12;   
      
   Yes, salvation belongs to Jesus.   
      
   >Philippians 2:9–11).   
      
   Vs 11b, "to the glory of God the Father." NOT to Jesus' glory.   
      
   >   
   >5. *Organization-centered authority* –   
   >   
   >The governing body’s control over members mirrors *hierarchical   
   >priesthoods* and *state religions* of pagan empires. True Christianity   
   >teaches direct access to God through Christ, not through an earthly   
   >organization (Hebrews 4:14–16; 10:19–22) or the "faithful slave".   
      
   God has always had His organization on the earth. Today is no   
   exception. The apostle Paul gave some stats on how the true religion   
   is organized. Notice:   
      
   1 Tim 3:8,12. Some qualifications of ministerial servants.   
   1 Tim 5:17  Talks about the elders in a congregation.   
   Thus the true religion contains those spiritual leaders. It's not   
   everyone on his own as you say above.   
      
   And, we are to obey those taking the lead in that organized   
   congregation:   
      
   -- New King James   
   Hebrews 13:17  Obey those who rule over you, and be submissive, for   
   they watch out for your souls, as those who must give account. Let   
   them do so with joy and not with grief, for that would be unprofitable   
   for you.   
      
   >   
   >6. *Rejection of Christ’s bodily resurrection* –   
   >   
   >Their claim that Jesus rose as a “spirit creature” resembles *Gnostic   
   >and pagan dualism*, which denied the goodness of the physical body.   
   >Scripture plainly teaches that He rose bodily (Luke 24:39;   
      
   Yes, Jesus manufactured a body in order to be seen. But it wasn't the   
   same body he had. He gave that up in the ransom.   
   If Jesus looked the same, why did Thomas not believe?   
      
   John 20:27;   
      
   Yes, Jesus showed Thomas his body that he made. Just like the angels   
   made bodies in the past.   
      
    1   
   >Corinthians 15:4–8).   
      
   Yes, Jesus showed his new body. When he showed Mary Magdalene, she   
   thought he was the gardener. (John 20:15)   
   Why would she say that if Jesus was resurrected with his same body? Or   
   even a carbon copy.   
      
   >So, although Jehovah’s Witnesses accuse others of pagan compromise,   
      
   It's the Bible that accuses.   
      
   >their own system borrows heavily from *pagan philosophy, human   
   >speculation, and false prophecy*,   
      
   Negatron. It's all from the Bible. Again, just your opinion. List a JW   
   doctrine that is not Bible based.   
      
      
    "What Has Happened to Respect?   
      
   Find out what can help you to show respect for yourself, others, and   
   life.   
   Learn More ". See jw.org (10/39/2025)   
      
      
      
      
   >rather than from the pure revelation   
   >of Scripture centered on the risen, divine Son of God.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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