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   >> > this letter is come unto thee, behold, I have therewith sent Naaman my   
   >> > servant to thee, that thou mayest recover him of his leprosy.   
   >>   
   >> Didn't you read what I said? Remember, *without relying on the myths   
   >> and legends of the Bible.*   
   >   
   >There are no myths there no legends either.   
   >In RL there are legends based on facts as well as embellished thinking.   
      
   Right.  That's where the stories came from, not because other nations   
   in ancient times had heard about miracles in Israel.   
      
   >> > > > > > There are recorded miracles throughout the centuries, some fake,   
   but the   
   >> > > > > > believers recorded enough real ones throughout history. Before   
   You Tube   
   >> > > > > > use   
   >> > > > > > of videos of real events people saw them with their own eyes.   
   Telling   
   >> > > > > > others.   
   >> > > > > > In the Jesus movement there were many reporting, via the ministry   
   of   
   >> > > > > > Oral   
   >> > > > > > Roberts and many others there was many, same with Kathryn   
   Kuhlman. And   
   >> > > > > > others since then.   
   >> > > > >   
   >> > > > > The prosperity gospel is rubbish.   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > None of that was “prosperity gospel”.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > Oral Roberts is into that. You know, God wants you to be rich, and   
   >> > > that sort of Biblical heresy.   
   >> >   
   >> > He was not into prosperity Gospel.   
   >> >   
   >> > 3Jn 1:2 Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be   
   in   
   >> > health, even as thy soul prospereth.   
   >>   
   >> Part of the problem is that you are apparently a subscriber to the   
   >> prosperity gospel claims yourself. Remember that the love of money   
   >> is the root of all evil, though (see 1 Timothy 6:10)   
   >   
   >And that is the reason why people fall prey to false teachers, who are also   
   >dwelling under the love of money. Give for the sole purpose of getting. That   
   >is not Godly. Nor is it of God. Money has become a god to those people. Not   
   >that you would understand.   
      
   Do you think televangelists suffer from those problems?   
      
   >God blesses his own.   
   >I could tell you stories about God blessing me, in RL, and how I learned   
   >about such things. But it would be of no help to you as you are not of a mind   
   >to understand and learn.   
      
   True, I don't regard you as my teacher.  It's probably best if you   
   keep the stories to yourself, since I would guess that they're not   
   very convincing anyway.   
      
   >> > Oral passed away long ago.   
   >>   
   >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_Roberts   
   >>   
   >> "Even though Roberts was often associated with the prosperity gospel   
   >> and the faith movement because of his close doctrinal and personal   
   >> ties with Word-Faith teachers, his abundant life teachings did not   
   >> fully identify him with that movement.[37]"   
   >   
   >Yet you place him fully there. I am a bit surprised that there was a modicum   
   >of truth there, being that it was WIKI.   
      
   I didn't say he fully was, only that he was into it, at whatever   
   level.   
      
   >> > >   
   >> > >   
   >> > > > > > But the best is soon to come and is already on its way.   
   >> > > > >   
   >> > > > > Why isn't it here now?   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > It is, and it is picking up world wide. Even mentioned in part by that   
   >> > > > young   
   >> > > > man.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > How long has it been "picking up world wide"?   
   >> >   
   >> > A few months.   
   >>   
   >> So how soon do you anticipate the return of Christ, based on "a few   
   >> months" mentioned here?   
   >   
   >I could not say anything definitive, and neither can Christ. But when you see   
   >the city of Damascus destroyed over night then note it will be extremely   
   >soon.   
      
   And if years pass by without the destruction of Damascus, what then?   
      
   >> > > > > > > > > > I know of several deaths brought back to life when it was   
   medically   
   >> > > > > > > > > > impossible to do. One being a healthy baby in the womb   
   but when Born   
   >> > > > > > > > > > was   
   >> > > > > > > > > > born dead. No cord around its neck, etc. They were able   
   to treat the   
   >> > > > > > > > > > body   
   >> > > > > > > > > > and   
   >> > > > > > > > > > recover it, but for 8 days it was unresponsive and the   
   said brain   
   >> > > > > > > > > > dead.   
   >> > > > > > > > > > And   
   >> > > > > > > > > > recommend pulling the plug and after eight days of   
   prayer, etc. it   
   >> > > > > > > > > > open   
   >> > > > > > > > > > his   
   >> > > > > > > > > > eyes, and from there on started acting like a normal   
   child, that was   
   >> > > > > > > > > > about 6   
   >> > > > > > > > > > or so years ago, and the child is above his peers in   
   learning and   
   >> > > > > > > > > > that   
   >> > > > > > > > > > was   
   >> > > > > > > > > > observed when he was three as well. Normal in all things.   
   >> > > > > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > > > > LOL! Cite? Or is this another one of your YouTube videos?   
   And yet so   
   >> > > > > > > > > many babies are still-born or are involved in a   
   miscarriage, that   
   >> > > > > > > > > it's   
   >> > > > > > > > > clear that there is no heavenly being protecting these   
   young lives.   
   >> > > > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > > > See there the mocking and accusations? I knew the family.   
   >> > > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > > Did you know the other families as well? And what was the name   
   of the   
   >> > > > > > > family you described above?   
   >> > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > Because they are already public knowledge, Duane Sheriff, who had   
   an NDE   
   >> > > > > > and   
   >> > > > > > one of his grandsons was the child I was speaking of.   
   >> > > > >   
   >> > > > > When and where did the NDE occur? And what about the "other   
   >> > > > > families"?   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > Both of them were in Arkansas, although Duane has since moved to   
   Texas,   
   >> > > > and his son has taken over in Arkansas.   
   >> > > > Search them to find the reports. The other families I don’t know if   
   they   
   >> > > > made it public. And so I would not want to create issues for them   
   >> > >   
   >> > > That doesn't tell me the when, where, and why of these NDEs.   
   >> >   
   >> > Why settle for hearsay when you can hear what they say about it?   
   >>   
   >> Which is what?   
   >   
   >I just told you what to look for so you can hear it for yourself. If you are   
   >not motived to look for it, then obviously you are not interested.   
      
   I looked for it and found just a slick website by someone who claimed   
   to be an evangelist.  Nothing about NDEs was involved.   
      
   >> > > > > > > In general, you need to read up on OBEs.   
   >> > > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > > From   
   >> > > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-body_experie   
   ce#OBE_theories   
   >> > > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > > "Terence Hines (2003) has written that spontaneous out-of-body   
   >> > > > > > > experiences can be generated by artificial stimulation of the   
   brain   
   >> > > > > > > and this strongly suggests that the OBE is caused by   
   "temporary, minor   
   >> > > > > > > brain malfunctions, not by the person's spirit actually leaving   
   the   
   >> > > > > > > body."[73] In a study review of neurological and neurocognitive   
   data,   
   >> > > > > > > Bünning and Blanke (2005) wrote that OBEs are due to "functional   
   >> > > > > > > disintegration of lower-level multisensory processing and   
   abnormal   
   >> > > > > > > higher-level self-processing at the temporoparietal   
   junction."[74]   
   >> > > > > > > Some scientists suspect that OBEs are the result of a mismatch   
   between   
   >> > > > > > > visual and tactile signals.[75][76]”   
   >> > > > > > I am familiar with OOBE’s. Witches Warlocks have them on one   
   level.   
   >> > > > > > And   
   >> > > > > > Christian Believers also have them. They are all spiritual. Both   
   the   
   >> > > > > > evil   
   >> > > > > > as well as the Godly.   
   >> > > > >   
   >> > > > > No, they're a result of brain activity, as described above.   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > You didn’t read it very well. "and this strongly suggests that the OBE   
      
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