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|    Christ Rose to All    |
|    Re: "Jehovah's Witnesses" false teaching    |
|    30 Oct 25 18:57:51    |
      XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife, alt.christnet.christnews, al       .religion.christian       XPost: alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox, alt.religion.christ       an.roman-catholic       From: usenet@christrose.news              James’s reply repeats several Watchtower errors already refuted by       Scripture. The Bible, not fourth-century councils or pagan philosophy,       reveals the truth about God, Christ, and salvation.              1. *The Trinity*              Long before Nicaea, Scripture already taught one God in three Persons.       At Jesus’ baptism, the Father spoke from heaven, the Son was baptized,       and the Spirit descended as a dove (Matthew 3:16–17). Jesus commanded       baptism “in the name [singular] of the Father and of the Son and of the       Holy Spirit” (Matthew 28:19, ESV). This was not later invention—it was       Christ’s own command.              2. *[Gehenna] not mere grave*              Jeremiah 7:31 condemns human sacrifice, not God’s judgment. The same       Jesus who warned against that sin also spoke of “the eternal fire       prepared for the devil and his angels” (Matthew 25:41, ESV). He called       it “[Gehenna]” where “their worm does not die and the fire is not       quenched” (Mark 9:48, ESV). Those words describe unending conscious       punishment. Jesus said it would be *more tolerable* for Sodom than for       Capernaum (Matthew 11:24). There cannot be degrees of non-existence.              3. *The soul endures after death*              Ezekiel 18:4 teaches that sinners die under judgment, not that the soul       ceases to exist. Scripture everywhere affirms personal existence beyond       death. Jesus said, “Do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill       the soul. Rather fear Him who can destroy both soul and body in       [Gehenna]” (Matthew 10:28, ESV). In Revelation 6:9–10, the martyrs cry       out consciously for justice. In Luke 16:19–31—an historical account, not       a parable—the rich man and Lazarus experience conscious existence after       death. Symbols never contradict the truths they depict; they illustrate       them.              4. *Christ’s deity*              Jesus’ claim to be the Son of God (John 10:36) does not deny His deity;       it confirms His unique relationship within the Godhead. The Jews sought       to stone Him “because He…was even calling God His own Father, making       Himself equal with God” (John 5:18, ESV). Thomas worshiped Him, saying,       “My Lord and my God!” (John 20:28, ESV). Colossians 2:9 declares, “In       Him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily.” The term “head” in 1       Corinthians 11:3 refers to role, not essence; Christ’s subordination to       the Father concerns function, not nature.              5. *The resurrection*              Jesus said, “See My hands and My feet…touch Me, and see. For a spirit       does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have” (Luke 24:39, ESV).       His glorified body was the same body transformed, not replaced. The tomb       was empty because He rose bodily. Paul’s whole argument in 1 Corinthians       15 depends on that fact.              6. *False prophecy*              Deuteronomy 18:22 states that if a prediction fails, it was not from       God. The Watchtower’s failed dates—1914, 1925, 1975—mark it as a false       prophet. God’s truth never “upgrades” by correction; His word is perfect       from the start (Psalm 19:7).              7. *Authority and access to God*              God indeed appoints elders, but nowhere authorizes a governing body       claiming infallible interpretation. True believers have direct access to       the Father through Christ (Hebrews 10:19–22). Salvation rests not in       organization but in the person of Jesus Christ.              8. *The name above every name*              Philippians 2:9–11 says God exalted Jesus and gave Him “the name that is       above every name,” so that “every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is       Lord, to the glory of God the Father.” Honoring Christ as Lord *is* the       way we glorify the Father.              In summary, the Watchtower denies every cornerstone of the       gospel—Christ’s full deity, His bodily resurrection, conscious life       after death, and the eternal nature of judgment. These denials do not       come from Scripture but from the very human reasoning and pagan ideas       they accuse others of following. The Bible proclaims one Lord, Jesus       Christ, fully God and fully man, who died for our sins and rose again.       Those who believe in Him receive eternal life; those who reject Him face       everlasting punishment in [Gehenna], where “the smoke of their torment       goes up forever and ever” (Revelation 14:11, ESV).                     --       Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (†), and God       raised Him from the dead?              That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death       penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death       satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John       2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your       sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.              On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on       the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name       of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).              https://christrose.news/salvation              To automatically receive daily Bible teaching updates with colorful       images and website formatting, subscribe to my feed in a client like       Thunderbird:              https://www.christrose.news/feeds/posts/default              --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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