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   have known if you were as capable as you declare yourself to be.   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > > Jhn 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you   
   > > > > > > that I go   
   > > > > > > away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you;   
   but   
   > > > > > > if I depart, I will send him unto you.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > What's the difference between needing a comforter after Jesus left,   
   > > > > > and needing a comforter *before Jesus allegedly* came to earth to   
   > > > > > begin with?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Jesus was the comforter while he was active in his ministry. He   
   promised   
   > > > > that we filled with the Holy Spirit could do greater things that he   
   did. Satan   
   > > > > has done his best to dumb down the churches.   
   > > >   
   > > > That doesn't explain why a comforter couldn't be sent to humanity   
   > > > before Jesus' supposed incarnation.   
   > >   
   > > Jesus was not incarnated.   
   >   
   > From   
   >   
   > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarnation_(Christianity)   
   >   
   > "In Christian theology, the incarnation is the belief that the   
   > pre-existent divine person of Jesus Christ, God the Son, the second   
   > person of the Trinity, and the Logos (Koine Greek for 'word'), was   
   > "made flesh"[1] by being conceived through the power of the Holy   
   > Spirit in the womb of a woman, the Virgin Mary,[2] who is also known   
   > as the Theotokos (Greek for "God-bearer" or "Mother of God"). The   
   > doctrine of the incarnation then entails that Jesus was at the same   
   > time both fully God and fully human.[3]"   
      
   Neither of those words are in the scriptures. Yet in the greek there was a   
   word that meant or described what you think of as incarnation, since the   
   Greek gods used it in their wars with one another, as well as for other   
   purposes.   
      
   Had God the Father thought that word to be legit regarding the birth of   
   Christ he would have used it. But it is not to be found. So then, what does   
   the Bible say about it? EH?   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > > Jhn 16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin,   
   and of   
   > > > > > > righteousness, and of judgment:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > What do you suppose this means? I mean, I can use the NIV to get a   
   > > > > > good sense of what's being said here, but can you with your KJV tell   
   > > > > > us what it means to "reprove the world of sin"?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > By the Holy Spirit who leads the believer into all truth.   
   > > >   
   > > > No, that is not what it means. You should get a modern translation   
   > > > and maybe then you'll understand what it's saying.   
   > >   
   > > I live it, you reject it.   
   >   
   > Here is what it means:   
   >   
   > John 16:8, NIV   
   >   
   > 8 When he comes, he will prove the world to be in the wrong about sin   
   > and righteousness and judgment:   
      
   That reads word for word what I quoted above. I quoted two scriptures that   
   were in context, which you preferred to isolate from one another.   
      
   Here is a continuation of that context.   
      
   Jhn 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you   
   into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall   
   hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.   
      
   Guiding into truth is also what Jesus Christ did.   
      
   But sadly you could not even understand what was meant in the first place   
   when I quoted the two scriptures to you in answer to your question.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > *he denigrates women by saying God is more like a   
   man than a   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > woman   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > Then you could also make that point from the Bible in   
   the book of   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > Genesis.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > Within the first three chapters. Why? Because God made   
   man in His   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > Image.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > The   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > woman he cloned from Adam, for Adams sake, Eve was   
   made bone of   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > his   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > bone,   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > flesh of his flesh. Separate.   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > If Eve had been a clone of Adam, Eve would've been a   
   male.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > Furthermore, there's nothing wrong with being separate.   
   There *is*   
   > > > > > > > > > > > something wrong with being inferior, which is how Gabe   
   refers to   
   > > > > > > > > > > > feminine attributes.   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > Adam was cloned for a purpose and with a purpose. To   
   procreate, and   
   > > > > > > > > > > a   
   > > > > > > > > > > helpmate.   
   > > > > > > > > > > I didn’t personally see him denigrate women or call them   
   > > > > > > > > > > inferior. I   
   > > > > > > > > > > am   
   > > > > > > > > > > curious as to what part of the video that was in.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > At about 11:00 minutes in he says, "He's not feminine; he's   
   not soft;   
   > > > > > > > > > he's not even nice. Sid, he doesn't play games -- he's a   
   man. He   
   > > > > > > > > > means what he says."   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > I have told my kids when they were young that Jesus was buff.   
   After   
   > > > > > > > > all,   
   > > > > > > > > he   
   > > > > > > > > grew up as a carpenter.   
   > > > > > > > > He overturned the tables of money changers, etc. in the temple   
   of His   
   > > > > > > > > Father.   
   > > > > > > > > Yes, he means what he says, he is no wimp, and it will be Him   
   who   
   > > > > > > > > judges   
   > > > > > > > > all   
   > > > > > > > > men.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Sounds like an interesting fantasy world you've got there, but   
   it has   
   > > > > > > > nothing to do with Jesus not having any feminine attributes.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > What are feminine attributes? Love? Man have that, Nurturing? Men   
   have   
   > > > > > > that.   
   > > > > > > Compassion, Men have that, it is integrated into the hearts of   
   men. Ever   
   > > > > > > see   
   > > > > > > firemen and or policeman cry? See the horror on their faces as they   
   > > > > > > hold a   
   > > > > > > dying child or greatly injured child? Ever see or hear of a cop   
   showing   
   > > > > > > empathy towards adults who were at the end of their rope? I have.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Maybe you should tell Gabe that, given that he seems to think that   
   > > > > > someone who meant what they say or avoid playing games could not be a   
   > > > > > woman. I don't know how he would react to crying cops, but remember   
   > > > > > that he says Jesus is not feminine.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > It is a destructive sin for a man to be effeminate, why is that?   
   > > >   
   > > > We're talking about being feminine, (like a crying police man), not   
   > > > effeminate like a transvestite.   
   > >   
   > > No, you are talking about something you know little of.   
   > > You know as much about being a woman as the last democratic VP wannabe   
   knows   
   > > about being a man.   
   >   
   > What are we supposedly missing?   
      
   If you are speaking of yourself? Understanding.   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > > So I don’t understand where you are coming from. Men were   
   created in   
   > > > > > > the   
   > > > > > > image of God, with all of his attributes, but in the realm of this   
   > > > > > > world.   
   > > > > > > We   
   > > > > > > were created less than the angels. Within us is the female DNA, as   
   it   
   > > > > > > were.   
   > > > > > > Typically, females have two X chromosomes, while males have one X   
   and   
   > > > > > > one   
   > > > > > > Y   
   > > > > > > chromosome. So obviously men had with in them the same attributes   
   as   
   > > > > > > women   
   > > > > > > of   
   > > > > > > the 23 pairs of Chromosomes except for the pair that determined   
   the male   
   > > > > > > of   
   > > > > > > female bodily differences. And she was cloned as such so as to me a   
   > > > > > > helpmate   
   > > > > > > to man.   
   > > > > >   
      
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